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was on this show back in last july he

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show and discuss what he has been up to

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in the last several weeks uh tomorrow at

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this very same time right here on

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youtube and facebook and

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i'm going to be talking about history

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channel's

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of the skin the mystery what is it the

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secret of skinwalker ranch that's the

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name of it and i have uh the owner of

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the ranch brandon fugle and the lead

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scientists eric bard they're both going

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to be on eric's going to be

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talking to us right from the skin watch

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walker ranch itself so check that out

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that's tomorrow night and that's also

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going out in the podcast feed as as

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usual a few weeks ago i mentioned a

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friend of the show started a podcast

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called nightmare houses and that's

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coming to kgra radio as well at 1 00 a.m

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et saturdays so that's for all you night

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owls out there people on the west coast

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youtube uh text so check that out the

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latest one is called breeznoll

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it's a place in connecticut and what a

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vermont and we're gonna be talking about

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i've just given that out there now since

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i have chris on and okay this week's

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japan part two so we already had that

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put in the podcast feed

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reason maybe i said something wrong i'm

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not sure but our subscription level has

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if anyone wants to help out you can see

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everyone that does support the show and

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anyone can do that for two dollars or

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every single listener okay that is

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i'm happy to be here man i just signed

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oh no no it goes it's okay it goes up

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one time that was yeah that helps a lot

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understand all of that and i think after

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thing which is totally bizarre and the

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scientists you know for hundreds of

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that we can communicate through you know

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there's something else besides

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uh electromagnetic waves

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yeah

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and that would go and and that's what

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excites me about uaps or it seems some

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there's something there to me it seems

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like

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right and uh you know i mean

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i've talked about it many times there's

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a connection between

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everything somehow and everything's

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vibration you know that whole thing of

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you know you can't really touch matter

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um you know it's so bizarre and uh yeah

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all that stuff i mean i know the show is

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on

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ufos uap and i'd like to talk to you a

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little bit about that are you

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hesitant to use the term ufo

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or i i see you you use uap a lot um you

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know i mean is it the the stigma thing

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or does it matter one way or the other

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with you

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um

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the uap term doesn't seem as common like

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i still have to explain it a lot

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yeah um and so if mark you know you

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mentioned you're trying to bring money

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in you're trying to bring funds you know

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i'm trying to we're trying to

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create this giant project um

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so if you don't know what you're talking

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about i don't know maybe it's an

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advantage or not not a discipline i find

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myself sometimes i don't care to use it

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you know i use ufo you know when you

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first sent me that email it was a stigma

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you know i was like well i'm not a ufo

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person am i you know i didn't i never

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thought of myself you know it's going on

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ufo shows

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specifically

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um so i but but now i think it's just a

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term uh that has less baggage i guess

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but to me it's it's interchangeable i

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guess

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yeah yeah i remember um when i first

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reached out to you you did

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uh your video is something like i'm

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debunking the

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it debunkers

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basically mick west's uh opinion on the

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gimbal ufo video i think that's what it

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was then yeah and you went into great

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detail about that so uh but you've done

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a lot of great work um out there and has

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it been enjoyable um rewarding

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yeah i mean definitely super rewarding

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um

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it's a lot of

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it's it's very enjoyable

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it's more rewarding than enjoyable i

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guess so i put it you know i'm just uh

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extremely curious uh i and i and i do

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actually really want to know you know in

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my in my free time i think i would

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search out for this stuff if i didn't

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have a youtube channel you know i would

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i would be what i can i watch those

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videos on the weekends you know saturday

347
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morning i like watching crazy

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quantum videos or ufo you know stories

349
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yeah yeah yeah i'm guilty of all that

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myself so uh

351
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so what are just if you would go over

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some of the the videos that you've done

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some of the

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um you know i i think i want to say that

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you've kind of made a few breakthroughs

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along the way on of certain videos

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you've done and if you can a little bit

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of refresher um what you think about

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the gimbal ufo videos that's out there

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and uh have you looked into a lot of

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other ones as well

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since that time

363
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yeah i've looked um there hasn't been

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too many navy releases you know um

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what's what kind of brought me to the

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next level this year it seems like it

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goes in jumps you mentioned the youtube

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growth and everything uh it seems like

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this was the introduction of you know

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better flying videos

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and related to the navy uh the uh off

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the east coast

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you know kind of the

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the

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those kind of photos are really

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interesting it was it was cool to get uh

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because you you know i could map it out

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to kind of and i could confirm it was

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inside an f-18 and then the navy

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confirmed that these uh images were

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legit essentially you know so

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the providence was really good

383
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so i did like that but it seems like we

384
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haven't really gotten anything else you

385
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know like no other

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no other major releases that i can think

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of for

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for navy stuff you know um

389
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right well um you now i saw you were on

390
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the show range fellers yeah you were on

391
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a show with luella sundo was that and

392
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but there were other people involved

393
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what what was the situation there at

394
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that time

395
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uh it was a round table on artist and

396
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tony's show with alexei nowitzki

397
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yeah so it's uh we do round tables

398
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basically we meet uh maybe every few

399
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weeks and we just chat basically we're

400
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just having long-form discussions on

401
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whatever comes to our mind

402
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uh you know alexa is uh he does a party

403
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his physics background

404
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um but basically he has this

405
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very interesting um but novel

406
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theory of the universe essentially you

407
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know basically how we're you mentioned

408
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the vibrations so that's kind of alexa's

409
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thing is um

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basically we're all related in

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vibrational uh

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levels basically i could explain it but

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it sounds like

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we would talk about something else

415
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uh yeah yeah but that was it yeah and

416
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yeah lou was on that that's the only

417
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time i've really uh come you know talk

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with lou uh it's very interesting i mean

419
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i was very impressed i mean he he

420
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answered question or he asked many of

421
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the questions actually kind of drove

422
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drove the whole interview

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and did drive my thinking in you know

424
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different ways and had me kind of

425
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question question some assumptions you

426
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know i just held which i appreciate

427
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right

428
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and you did a show on um

429
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let's see the debrief did a story i

430
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think it was called sex and lies and

431
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ufos or something like that and you did

432
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a show on that and uh i hadn't really

433
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read through the debrief um article

434
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until i until i watched your

435
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video and uh but but you saw a lot of

436
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what

437
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goes on

438
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firsthand

439
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in the in the past and uh and and

440
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similar people

441
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with that uh

442
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whatever you want to call it i know what

443
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you termed it in your own video

444
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yes

445
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but uh but but you there is a lot of

446
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that there is some of that in the

447
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military and i know that just from you

448
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:05,040
know people friends of mine

449
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um so you have to kind of

450
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you have to deal with that

451
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and and choose what what to do with it

452
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but uh

453
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yeah you have to remember this i mean

454
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those people got to that position you

455
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know it's not easy

456
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it's very very hard

457
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to be a general is extremely hard you

458
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know

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um

460
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so just getting to that position takes a

461
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certain type of person you know that

462
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uh

463
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yeah they they're hardcore you know they

464
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devote everything to that

465
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their whole life essentially you know

466
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it's devoted to that and it's and i also

467
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i tried to relate and yeah i was fired

468
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up in that and

469
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um

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[Music]

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people are people you know i don't think

472
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i would do anything necessarily

473
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different or i i can't say that you or

474
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me would do anything different i i would

475
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hope so

476
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um but you have to remember you're under

477
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so much

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pressure from the system you know that's

479
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really my belief is that you're just

480
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you're just a a small piece of a very

481
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very large giant system

482
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and so

483
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i don't know i don't think it lets them

484
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out of making those those decisions

485
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you know this they have to live with

486
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them

487
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right i think

488
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you know it we shouldn't be surprised

489
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you know we shouldn't be surprised when

490
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the war you know the worst kickoff

491
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you know it's they have always kicked

492
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off you know i think we should we should

493
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just sigh and say look we you know how

494
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can we stop this but you know the shock

495
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and surprise is just i don't know it's

496
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kind of funny i guess yeah

497
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uh this uh comes up here from rnr your

498
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review of the turkey ufo video was a

499
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game changer

500
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um wow cool so anyway uh when he showed

501
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people and his family that's that's

502
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pretty awesome so yeah the the turkey

503
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ufo i think i was on your show about

504
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that time when you were

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looking into that and so that's that's

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been kind of a controversial

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uh you know some people have claimed

508
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that it's an a camera anomaly but it's

509
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just it's really a bizarre image i'm

510
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while you're talking

511
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uh what what well first of all what it

512
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after all your work you did on that

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what do you think what's your general

514
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my general consensus is i'm still not

515
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sure i guess

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you know i i do want to go

517
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it's just weird to me that it just

518
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stopped as well you know it's like there

519
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was 2007 they had the mass sightings in

520
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the summer in turkey you know up by

521
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istanbul uh then there's 2008 again they

522
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had mass sightings in in the same area

523
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and then 2009

524
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uh they had all the videos uh but really

525
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from one guy yalman

526
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up on the screen there for those of you

527
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watching uh watching live now

528
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that was just one picture but if you

529
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,000
look in if you focus in it almost looks

530
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like two heads right in the very center

531
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and there are pictures of that i'm gonna

532
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see if i can find one

533
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of that that looks it does kind of look

534
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like two beings but i mean so that was

535
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all from

536
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one one particular camera or one

537
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yeah so he he's a night guard

538
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and

539
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it's right he he was basically a guard

540
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for one of these um

541
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[Music]

542
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uh tatil koyu what is that a vacation

543
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village

544
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and uh

545
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i hope to go there this summer actually

546
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i met some turks just at this last

547
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conference

548
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actually uh europeans that moved to

549
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turkey and they were like yeah come you

550
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know we'll help you

551
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:37,600
you know we can help you out and i asked

552
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:38,880
him is it safe and everything they said

553
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yeah so it's

554
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i'll hopefully i i think i'll go

555
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this summer and try and track that guy

556
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down yalman

557
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,600
um but basically he's able to zoom in

558
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:49,679
over the over the

559
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:54,160
uh the boss first there and he has this

560
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,919
extra doubling

561
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:58,000
uh some sort of lens on the end that can

562
00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,679
actually double it again so it's like

563
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:01,919
zoomed in 400 times so it's quite zoomed

564
00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:02,640
in

565
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,640
ah yep

566
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,760
and yeah

567
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,919
yeah you look up there now yeah yeah

568
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:09,360
look at it looks

569
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:12,640
they sure look like

570
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,360
two

571
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:14,960
beings don't they

572
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,280
and uh uh also they move they move or

573
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:21,120
they have moved in the in the video it

574
00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:22,480
would be awful hard to fake something

575
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,039
like that but um like you say the jury's

576
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,120
still out on on that yeah because i when

577
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,799
i zoomed in i you know i used my

578
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:30,480
computer and i um

579
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:34,159
stabilized it and i zoomed way in and

580
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,320
you know for the for the several seconds

581
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:38,320
i could get it stabilized i couldn't see

582
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,520
any movement

583
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,120
i didn't see real obvious movement yeah

584
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,120
like the they were like moving around or

585
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:45,760
talking or anything or it just like like

586
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:47,679
stationary which kind of

587
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,520
just i don't know maybe is something

588
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,480
weird but

589
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:53,039
i mean it it's it hasn't been fully

590
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,799
debunked as far as i know it hasn't been

591
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,400
debunked you know the biggest argument

592
00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:58,080
is it's a cruise ship that's what they

593
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,520
said on metabunk

594
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,520
on their website and that just took off

595
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:02,720
right so then everyone's like it's

596
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:03,679
cruise ship

597
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,640
um but it you know i have one example in

598
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,799
there in my video is is the moon right

599
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,400
so they have it in

600
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,880
uh in relation to the moon

601
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:14,880
which it was the the phase of the moon

602
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,440
you can get by the by the video as well

603
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:19,120
and it matches the date and it matches

604
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:20,240
the time

605
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,240
and so based off of that the moon is 14

606
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,080
degrees above the horizon

607
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:26,240
and that makes the actual

608
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:27,200
uh

609
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:28,400
object

610
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:29,600
ship or whatever you want to call it

611
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,440
seven degrees above the horizon so if

612
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,600
it's seven degrees above the horizon

613
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,960
i mean there's no way it can be a cruise

614
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,799
ship i mean it you'd have to be miles

615
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:38,080
off the planet

616
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,600
right yeah exactly yeah yeah and so it

617
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,919
if assuming that's correct and i don't

618
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:45,520
see how it isn't you know there was some

619
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,080
i was looking on mick west's site and he

620
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,240
was saying that uh

621
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:53,200
this could be a mast of a ship and

622
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,640
but it doesn't doesn't seem to make

623
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,960
sense to me it looks like uh it look

624
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,880
what he says is a mast of a ship clearly

625
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,159
looks like a

626
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,240
a light post a lamppost that they have

627
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,960
all around that area you know so

628
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,720
it seems like it's seven degrees above

629
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,960
the horizon unless so then that would

630
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,559
lead me to believe is

631
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,960
uh if it is not real then it's like just

632
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,120
an elaborate hoax

633
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:17,280
you know which would really suck

634
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,039
it would really suck yeah now the thing

635
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,880
i hear about that because when i talk to

636
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,320
you the reason i talk to you is because

637
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,240
you had interviewed uh

638
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,440
roger lear

639
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:27,840
yeah and he he was there and he said he

640
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,200
was there through the telescope you know

641
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,720
i looked through the telescope and i saw

642
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,919
this thing

643
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:35,600
and to me i mean

644
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:36,880
are we just not going to believe all

645
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,520
these people that say that i don't know

646
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:41,120
i i would like to know if there's other

647
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,799
people involved

648
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:45,440
also you know i mean he was one person i

649
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,559
spoke with

650
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:49,039
but are you know i mean what is the

651
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:51,360
james melson i heard james mason was

652
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,080
there which is interesting because i i

653
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,600
think he's going to

654
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:56,640
the

655
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:01,679
27 may that i'm that i'm speaking at as

656
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,640
well

657
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,080
oh let's talk about that where is that

658
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,159
going to be i should put that up behind

659
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:08,320
actually it's uh so that's vernal utah

660
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,360
this is gonna be the first conference

661
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:11,360
i've gone to i'm excited man it's it's

662
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,000
pumped the speaker list is totally full

663
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:16,080
uh we have travis taylor heavy lobes

664
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:17,360
gonna be there

665
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,480
uh i'll be there in a group we will have

666
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:22,960
uh some disclosure for sure stuff coming

667
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:25,600
out there's gonna be the cousin brothers

668
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:28,000
they're uh gonna have a video

669
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,919
or i guess a new documentary that

670
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,000
they're releasing

671
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:34,880
so that'll be in vernal utah 2729 may

672
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,320
megacon it's mega disclosure megacon oh

673
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,559
i wish i'd known that about about that

674
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,000
prior um

675
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,799
in advance um it might be something

676
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:47,279
i would be uh willing to come out to now

677
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,350
they're not from that youtube channel

678
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:58,960
are they no they make they make

679
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,600
documentaries um i think it was about

680
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,360
yeah i'm not sure who was in it but

681
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,559
maybe maybe

682
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:06,799
oh okay somebody

683
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,000
oh

684
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:10,000
all right

685
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:11,039
i don't know

686
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,480
i haven't heard of him but

687
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:14,320
i know abby loeb will be there we have

688
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:16,000
an event planned uh the first day we're

689
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,600
gonna have an event related to this uh

690
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,120
this project

691
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,799
oh yeah let's talk about the the project

692
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,960
yeah i hope that'll be cool yeah so yeah

693
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,360
what is the project exactly yeah so the

694
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,000
project uh so basic the question is you

695
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,480
know what's the number one place or what

696
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:32,400
where would you actually invest to

697
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,440
actually get some of this evidence made

698
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,799
you know what's

699
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,480
say you're out there you want to invest

700
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:40,000
you want to you want to put your money

701
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,279
where your mouth is or your mouth where

702
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,640
your money is

703
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,080
and

704
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:46,559
help move the needle you know help find

705
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,950
what would i do

706
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,640
yeah

707
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:56,000
uh

708
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,679
in in what way what

709
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,120
you mean i guess

710
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,520
where's a place where uap enthusiasts

711
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:04,080
can come together and discuss projects

712
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,039
and actually work on finding science

713
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,400
you know because if you look at if you

714
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:11,039
look at our our science now

715
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,840
um

716
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,080
it's all organized it's all based on

717
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,000
funding that they can receive that's

718
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,760
right yeah all these scientists are like

719
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,440
why guys why didn't you why aren't you

720
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,520
looking at uaps and they're always like

721
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,919
funding you know so it's

722
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,760
but then you look at okay well let's say

723
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:27,360
i have funding

724
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,400
right let's say i want to fund science

725
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,279
you know where can you give it you know

726
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:35,440
i guess you could send a galileo project

727
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,240
you could you could uh give it to uapx

728
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,840
right i'm sure they could they could use

729
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,960
it you know but then um

730
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,159
yeah there's there's just all these

731
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,840
communities right there's no one place

732
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:47,279
where you can really

733
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,240
like

734
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,559
orient the community towards a goal

735
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:51,760
you know there's all these barrett

736
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,880
projects going around right yeah so

737
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,360
that's that's the point is basically

738
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,520
why we partnered with

739
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,200
some big groups or

740
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,720
names in the space

741
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,279
and basically to create a community

742
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,720
where

743
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,880
scientists can be there and we can bring

744
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,279
the funding together

745
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,520
and and that's it you know now does it

746
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,679
happen is the galileo project part of

747
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:16,880
this

748
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,840
friendly competitor to the galileo

749
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,840
project i see and how's that going to

750
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,200
launch and how's that going to work

751
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:28,720
exactly

752
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,799
yes so we have some exciting plans

753
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,039
that i can't that i can't relay or get

754
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,279
in trouble from my team is basically how

755
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,600
it works but i will say

756
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,760
the megacon disclosure will be the first

757
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:44,080
kind of big uh big notice on what we're

758
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,360
releasing

759
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,200
all right so

760
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,200
i guess guess what i'm going to have to

761
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,720
ask you to do

762
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,120
is uh to get back in touch with me after

763
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,039
that and i'll put information into the

764
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:56,880
show notes of this show

765
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,600
so people can check back uh okay well i

766
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,360
can show i mean i can give you a teaser

767
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,440
here of uh if they want

768
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,279
yeah are you gonna share a screen or

769
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,000
something yeah let me share that sure

770
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,679
and by the way your videos are really

771
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,279
good you have all kinds of things going

772
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:13,360
on in those

773
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:15,760
for the youtube videos yes you do a

774
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,000
really good job with that so all right

775
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,240
so what do we got here

776
00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:21,600
so this is it this is all we're giving

777
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,540
away right now

778
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:24,720
[Laughter]

779
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,600
okay

780
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:27,360
for those who stick the truth of

781
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,039
revolution's begun it all starts with

782
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,880
42.

783
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:32,080
and um

784
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,080
yep you can log here at uapsociety.com

785
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:38,720
uh and we'll send updates or my patreon

786
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:41,200
my patreons so one benefit i give them

787
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:42,640
is um

788
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,679
they get first access to everything

789
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,000
so that's it here we have a douglas

790
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,840
adams

791
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,200
quote here i may not have gone where i

792
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:53,039
intended to go but i think i've ended up

793
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:55,279
where i needed to be douglas adams yeah

794
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,880
i like that one that's good yeah so true

795
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,840
yeah

796
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,240
all right well uh let's see whoops i'm

797
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:04,880
trying to uh no you did it thank you

798
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:07,279
yeah but actually the i mean what we're

799
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,520
trying to do is leverage web 3.0

800
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,440
which is really all the technology

801
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,279
that's coming on board right now

802
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,840
with blockchain technology

803
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,279
we want to use

804
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,000
decentralized storage

805
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:24,240
that can't be destroyed essentially so

806
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:26,240
if you want to save files for many many

807
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,600
years and make sure that they are

808
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:29,600
verifiable if you want to confirm

809
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:30,480
evidence

810
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,440
uh if you want to fund experiments

811
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,440
if you want to write proposals to get

812
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,760
funded for experiments

813
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,159
so it's just it's like

814
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,640
is this sort of like an open source also

815
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,640
type of thing the whole goal is to get

816
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,159
open source evidence like that is the

817
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:48,320
whole goal to find the truth with open

818
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,200
source

819
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:51,600
everybody funds it and the but but the

820
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,399
one

821
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:54,399
agreement is the information has to be

822
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,159
open source at some point i think we'll

823
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,799
delay it maybe like a week or two

824
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,720
for you know peop for people that are

825
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,159
invested in the project they can get

826
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,480
access to information sooner

827
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,480
but that's the idea to bring together

828
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,159
the science the scientists already there

829
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,960
you know uapx at any moment could go do

830
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,640
probably some pretty sweet project you

831
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:13,679
know

832
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,159
um and we could fund it with this or

833
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:18,159
someone could fund even just one trip

834
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,200
you know they say we're going to go to

835
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,480
hester land

836
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,640
you know they have all the crazy guys

837
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,760
they're going to run out there with all

838
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:25,120
this equipment and they have tons of

839
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,520
equipment you know they they go to

840
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,760
skimwalker ranch you know

841
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,440
we don't have to go to skinwalker ranch

842
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:33,840
you know we could pay pay somebody uh

843
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,200
yeah you're actually going to be out

844
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,039
that's not where you're going is not far

845
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,360
from there right yes yes so we'll go to

846
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:41,840
blind frog ranch that's actually um yeah

847
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,279
who's supporting it

848
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:45,679
well i'm gonna i'm going to ask uh the

849
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,919
owner of skinwalker ranch something

850
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,320
tomorrow off air we'll see what he says

851
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,640
um i would love to do a show from

852
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,919
skidmarker ranch i don't know but uh i'm

853
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,520
going to quickly change the subject and

854
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,600
put this up here so this is a question

855
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,159
to you um from another u.s

856
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,399
air force vet please ask chris to

857
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,600
comment

858
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,240
uh uap don't seem to interact with

859
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:10,320
atmosphere mock

860
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,520
uh as

861
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:13,919
mac he meant to say mock or show

862
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,120
inertial mass also the trans medium

863
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,279
definitely not ours what is your comment

864
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,279
on that

865
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:24,240
i mean it certainly seems what all the

866
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:25,520
from all the stuff we're getting from

867
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,720
lou

868
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,559
you know they haven't released any more

869
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,080
information

870
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,720
but what we've seen is yeah there's the

871
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:35,279
the key thing is there's no sound

872
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:38,080
i know that's so weird

873
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,440
it is

874
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,679
it really is you know i i mentioned to

875
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,600
this while i was on the mufon show they

876
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,760
asked me about my ufo sighting

877
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:48,480
and the number one weirdest thing

878
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,960
for me in my ufo sighting was that

879
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,039
this thing is moving it's stopping and

880
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,440
moving again and there's absolutely no

881
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,720
sound it's

882
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,080
dead quiet

883
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,000
and that was the most eerie part of my

884
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,519
sighting and i i never knew

885
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,679
uh you know i went years before i ever

886
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,120
heard someone else say oh yeah and it

887
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,519
made no sound that is kind of a common

888
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,080
denominator you know between a lot of

889
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,240
ufo sightings you rarely hear every once

890
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,000
in a while here someone will say oh yes

891
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:18,080
it made a humming noise or a buzzing

892
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,279
noise or

893
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:21,600
or high pitch noise something like that

894
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,840
but it's really rare it's really rare

895
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,080
that they make any sound at all bizarre

896
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,679
i was surprised by that yeah i remember

897
00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:29,600
actually talking about that on your show

898
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,860
um

899
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,039
[Music]

900
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,640
i i remember being surprised that

901
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:34,559
they're all

902
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,279
no sound you know there's or i i don't

903
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,200
know i remember uh nick pope he said

904
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,360
that uh they get a humming sound a deep

905
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,279
bass humming sound from

906
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,039
if you're close to it

907
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,440
yeah or some object you did i asked what

908
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,960
type he said a large triangle or

909
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,159
something like that

910
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,880
yeah yeah no i've heard i've also heard

911
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,640
that about a triangle

912
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,480
i from someone that claims they

913
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:58,000
witnessed one and they felt pressure

914
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,960
from it

915
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,200
and they also said that there was a

916
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,919
ah like a humming a very low humming

917
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,360
noise

918
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:07,600
yeah so the no sound and the

919
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,120
trans-dimensional the no mock

920
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,799
yeah it all seems like it's not really

921
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,320
there it's like a light that's where i

922
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,640
was thinking maybe it's like a wave

923
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:18,080
you know

924
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,600
um and then

925
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:22,159
but and that's how it can just move

926
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,200
freely

927
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:25,200
you know like light light is like a wave

928
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,559
it can just move

929
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,120
freely um you know can't go through hard

930
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,640
objects the certain objects can't go

931
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,760
through but

932
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,039
um

933
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,720
yeah but and then

934
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,640
when you hear about it

935
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,880
causing some sort of sound

936
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,480
then it doesn't fit you know then it's

937
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:42,000
kind of weird so maybe that's where

938
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,679
we're seeing different types of of

939
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,840
vehicles or different at least different

940
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:47,440
types of propulsion

941
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,559
yeah no i i think we probably are i mean

942
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:51,760
from what i've

943
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,600
heard all over these years that i've

944
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:55,600
been doing this is people are seeing

945
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:56,640
different

946
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,519
things

947
00:33:01,590 --> 00:32:59,679
um and occasionally two people be

948
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:01,600
standing together and see a different

949
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,480
thing

950
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:04,880
which which may go back to

951
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:05,919
um

952
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,519
the consciousness type of situation

953
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,840
the interaction somehow

954
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,760
and i don't know can you explain what

955
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,679
your thoughts i mean i've been asked

956
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:16,960
many times

957
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,679
on

958
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:20,559
you know from emails and listeners like

959
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,880
uh what is the consciousness connection

960
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,559
and i i've never been able to quite

961
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,919
explain that

962
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,080
um what do you how do you think that

963
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:30,240
consciousness may play a role

964
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,679
when it comes to people seeing a ufo

965
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:35,840
or uap

966
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,720
well i guess it's um

967
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:40,320
it's related to kind of what you said is

968
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,000
where you have two people

969
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,120
and they they see different things

970
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,720
i think it was in lakotsky's book you

971
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,039
know skim walkers of the pentagon where

972
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,120
he's he was there i think on the ranch

973
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:53,760
and he saw basically some uep in another

974
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,310
so for me it relates to that that other

975
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,320
pathway there's some other pathway where

976
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:05,039
we can receive information

977
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,519
and if you think about consciousness

978
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:09,599
it's just a crazy concept in itself you

979
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:12,560
know before i was here i was

980
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,079
where was i you know and then if i

981
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:18,320
why am i able to see what's going on and

982
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,200
experience this uh if i'm going to die

983
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,760
right like how can i experience this now

984
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,520
if i'm going to be nothing

985
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,280
at some point in the future you know and

986
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:28,879
i was nothing before

987
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:29,599
right

988
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,320
so

989
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,599
i've always just been kind of enamored

990
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,520
with with consciousness and it's in its

991
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,879
uh case

992
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,800
it's just a crazy thing but uh how it

993
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,639
relates to uaps is it would be this

994
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,480
other maybe pathway of information

995
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,079
exchange

996
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:43,919
you know if there is telekinetic

997
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,520
pathways if there is um

998
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,599
yeah if you can affect things with your

999
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,760
mind mentally then it shows that we're

1000
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,200
more than just our

1001
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,960
our bodies i guess and then that would

1002
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,960
that would could go some way to

1003
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,560
explaining some of these

1004
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:00,960
these uh weird events you know the high

1005
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,990
yeah that's why i've also heard after

1006
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,440
talking to leslie kane you know i

1007
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:09,839
interviewed her as well and she's did

1008
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,720
that whole study on surviving death

1009
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,560
and so for her she thought there was

1010
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,560
clearly a connection between uaps and

1011
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:17,920
consciousness

1012
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:20,560
and so for her in it was

1013
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,359
she said that uh whitley strieber

1014
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:25,680
he wrote in his book he wrote that

1015
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,920
when people see uaps

1016
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,320
they will often see ghosts as well and

1017
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,320
the vice versa if people when people

1018
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:33,839
supposedly see ghosts

1019
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:37,119
uh they see uaps so there's

1020
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,920
she was she's very you know or not

1021
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,000
confident but she when i interviewed her

1022
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,680
she was yeah really interested in that

1023
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,599
connection

1024
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,079
yeah um yeah i have heard of things like

1025
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:50,560
that and and it doesn't stop there you

1026
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,599
know i mean

1027
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,839
it gets into the crypto stuff too you

1028
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,800
know

1029
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,960
people talk about bigfoot i've had

1030
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,480
people talk about that

1031
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,240
um you know there's a lot of weird

1032
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,480
things happening all at once

1033
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,920
um i

1034
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,000
talked now and then with paul eno he

1035
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,760
does a radio show

1036
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:10,000
uh down around rhode island somewhere

1037
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,760
and uh providence i think and he

1038
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,960
um his thought is that everything is

1039
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:18,320
connected

1040
00:36:23,710 --> 00:36:21,440
ufos bigfoot ghosts anything paranormal

1041
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,720
is connected and he thinks it's all

1042
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,640
interdimensional and you know i gotta

1043
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,800
say that's as good of an answer as any

1044
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,000
answer

1045
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,119
that you could have i have no idea

1046
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,880
and you know the one thing that does

1047
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,800
when it gets back to

1048
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:39,119
um i had someone on the show uh a

1049
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:40,720
scientist was on the show that's saying

1050
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:43,760
that we manifest this that's what we're

1051
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,800
doing we're manifesting a ufo and so i

1052
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,640
questioned him i said okay what about

1053
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,119
the phoenix lights there are thousands

1054
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:53,200
and thousands of witnesses and what

1055
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,520
about tinley park uh you know many

1056
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:57,440
hundreds of witnesses things like that

1057
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,800
in chicago and uh many there's many mass

1058
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,720
sightings i don't really remember what

1059
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:04,640
his

1060
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,640
he had some reply that really made

1061
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:10,480
people in the chat room go get angry i

1062
00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:14,560
forget what it was but anyway uh but

1063
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,839
how how would that work if we're our

1064
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:19,920
consciousness is how these things

1065
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,640
somehow manifest

1066
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:24,560
when it's a mass sighting

1067
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:32,390
yeah i don't see you know i think

1068
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,920
i mean i've been so then i've been

1069
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,680
researching once you get into the

1070
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,200
consciousness you know once you pull the

1071
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,520
thread on the consciousness

1072
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,960
it's like the woo you know everybody's

1073
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,640
like stay away from the woo you know but

1074
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,839
then

1075
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:45,359
there's a lot of woo

1076
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,320
uh in the subject i don't know what yeah

1077
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,160
yeah i mean i saw a ufo that's kind of

1078
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,480
woo guys you know um i just want to

1079
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,320
throw that out there you know but

1080
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,880
whatever there's everybody has a line

1081
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,920
um yeah

1082
00:38:01,270 --> 00:38:00,160
yeah but when you start pulling back the

1083
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,280
consciousness

1084
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,440
uh you know what i what i think is that

1085
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,200
we're all i think we could agree that

1086
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:07,520
it's a shared experience

1087
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,290
you know we're all seeing um

1088
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,880
[Music]

1089
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:12,880
we're all different

1090
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,839
at least entities in this dimension of a

1091
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,520
shared experience

1092
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,320
uh and and so in that case

1093
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,560
uh i think if you had that's why i

1094
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:24,640
really like the mass sightings

1095
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,640
you know i was i've been trying to look

1096
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,640
into phoenix lights more

1097
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,720
um but right now i'm in the looking at

1098
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,440
crop circles or trying to

1099
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,200
um but the mass sightings is really

1100
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,520
interesting to me because i

1101
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,680
yeah that doesn't work right you can

1102
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,000
always say it's one source that person

1103
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,520
you know they were on drugs they were

1104
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,760
crazy you know or that camera has glare

1105
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,839
in it you know but now you have two now

1106
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,440
you have two cameras and you're like oh

1107
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:51,680
geez you know what about two people all

1108
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:54,000
right well they were both on drugs okay

1109
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,720
yeah

1110
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,640
you know once you get more sources it

1111
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,880
does knock that out you know

1112
00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:00,240
yeah um

1113
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,440
yeah and

1114
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,040
so i don't know it's it's it's quite

1115
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,440
interesting to me um but it it would

1116
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,000
mean there's another pathway if anything

1117
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:10,160
my study of ueps is

1118
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:13,599
um it's opened my eyes to or my mind i

1119
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,400
guess to to looking for more

1120
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:18,079
more things you know we don't know

1121
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,400
nearly as much as we think we know yes

1122
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,240
but by finding that out just just

1123
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,560
proving that pathway even if we don't

1124
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,720
solve the uap phenomena you know we

1125
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,240
don't figure out what the phenomena is

1126
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:30,560
we still improve our understanding

1127
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,680
um

1128
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:33,440
yeah so that's why it's also exciting

1129
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,880
for me why else i love the subject you

1130
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:35,839
know i love

1131
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,200
progressing

1132
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,560
i love pointing out hypocrisy

1133
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,720
and um and i would love to find you know

1134
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,640
find the truth and maybe just if

1135
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,079
anything to give us more understanding

1136
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,320
about the universe right if it's so if

1137
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:52,079
it it sounds like it's very difficult to

1138
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,440
know what it is

1139
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:55,920
it's very elusive right it's been 80

1140
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,240
years yeah we still don't have any good

1141
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:00,320
photos really i mean

1142
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,440
you don't have any super clear video

1143
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,079
however you cut it that's weird you know

1144
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,000
yeah um and then are we going to be you

1145
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,880
know with great cgi getting better and

1146
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,000
better all the time we're going to be

1147
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,920
able to trust what we see in the future

1148
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:15,760
it's going to be awful hard

1149
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:19,359
you know to to figure it out um you know

1150
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,880
if cgi can at one time be

1151
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,440
unprovable that it's cgi that'll be

1152
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,440
tough and and we're heading in that

1153
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,040
direction really

1154
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:31,359
so um i had an interesting comment i was

1155
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,200
speaking with a friend last night and

1156
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,240
she said uh wherever we are

1157
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:38,880
in time we're at the top of our

1158
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:40,480
technological

1159
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,280
you know crest no matter where we are

1160
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,440
yeah well you go down i mean you do go

1161
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,960
down yeah there has been there's been

1162
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,200
slip backs like the you know during the

1163
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,680
egyptians you know the romans they had

1164
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:53,119
they were doing brain surgery and then

1165
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,319
there was a

1166
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,040
yeah a step back you know from there so

1167
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,960
we forgot to go to the moon we forgot

1168
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:00,960
how right really you know we went how

1169
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,599
many twelve sixty nine fifty two years

1170
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,720
ago well fifty what is it i can't wet it

1171
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:08,160
i mean i can't do quick math like that

1172
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,440
but uh i think 53 years ago i guess so

1173
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,200
yeah um

1174
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:15,119
i know that that is a really bizarre

1175
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,160
thing

1176
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,160
isn't it you know they the computer

1177
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,240
power of what they had back then was a

1178
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,240
key fob on a

1179
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,960
on a car today that that's how much you

1180
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,800
know that's what they compare it to

1181
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,960
it's really amazing if you if you really

1182
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,720
think about what they had and how they

1183
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,400
were able to do that it's quite it's

1184
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,200
almost like a miracle it's quite amazing

1185
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,160
yeah it is and what um

1186
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,839
but when you get into space once you get

1187
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,520
out of the atmosphere the atmosphere

1188
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,000
really confuses a lot of things

1189
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:45,520
it's difficult to deal with it but once

1190
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:47,920
you get into space actually

1191
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:49,119
you don't have to deal with all the

1192
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,960
atmosphere stuff so lasers can work

1193
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,640
really well now

1194
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:54,640
that's one idea

1195
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,839
is basically to put lasers in space

1196
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,079
on satellites we can put them on like

1197
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,880
make a big laser interferometer

1198
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,640
uh test for gravity waves you can listen

1199
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,560
for gravity waves

1200
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,640
but not not you're not talking weapons

1201
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,800
like laser weapons no that's the whole

1202
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,960
point is that's what pisses me off you

1203
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,480
know it's like all the

1204
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,160
i went to these last two conferences i

1205
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,160
went to a conference in lisbon and one

1206
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:19,680
in paris for

1207
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,800
uh non-fungible uh tokens so crypto you

1208
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,960
know i love crypto um

1209
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,640
yeah i think it's the next it is the

1210
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,640
next internet web 3.0 i would bet my

1211
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,960
life right now that um the decentralized

1212
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:33,280
internet is is going to be it and it's

1213
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,119
going to be blockchain technology

1214
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,440
with nfts overlaid on it you know you're

1215
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,440
talking a foreign language to me i'm

1216
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,079
sorry i say all these things i would i

1217
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,160
would like to know more about it um you

1218
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,240
know i mean it would be fascinating but

1219
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:48,000
yeah i have yeah no idea what you're

1220
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,760
talking about yeah

1221
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,839
he said i have heard about i've heard

1222
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,480
about these auctions where some things

1223
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:57,200
have gone at auction for crazy money and

1224
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,480
and

1225
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,280
was it non what's it called non-fungible

1226
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:04,000
yeah nfts is like the buzzword it's it's

1227
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,319
one small piece of the technology puzzle

1228
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,560
um and it's so easy to make them and

1229
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,040
sell them um that

1230
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,960
basically there's a thousand ten

1231
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,640
thousand projects that come up every day

1232
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:17,920
you know and there's there's probably

1233
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,319
nothing behind them actually

1234
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,240
you know it's it's like a 99 it's like

1235
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,880
1999 in san francisco

1236
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,720
basically you have you have this new

1237
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:28,560
technology that comes out everybody sees

1238
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:31,520
it um understands that it's breakthrough

1239
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,960
but now they're trying to find these use

1240
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,800
cases for it

1241
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,119
but it's it's very good it'll bring in

1242
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,040
what it'll bring in is it'll vary it

1243
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,760
verifies trust digitally

1244
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,760
so you can verify that something's

1245
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,440
digitally valid

1246
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:47,839
um and and if you think that nobody can

1247
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,119
nobody can put a virus to it or

1248
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,960
change it somehow

1249
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,760
so it no like i mean how secure is

1250
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:57,200
secure

1251
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,160
it's

1252
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:00,400
more secure than anything we've had in

1253
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:03,440
the history of humans

1254
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,960
history of humans yeah wow

1255
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,040
yeah we'll have to talk about that yeah

1256
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,359
yeah yeah like that's the thing like

1257
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:13,280
that's all the the mining that they're

1258
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,800
using on bitcoin

1259
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,160
that's

1260
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,960
that is that whole network is using all

1261
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,880
of its processing power so that you

1262
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,520
can't defeat it and that's all it does

1263
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,599
it does it does database management it's

1264
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,119
just a database

1265
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:29,040
but it it verifies the hell out of that

1266
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,640
database with thousands and thousands of

1267
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:32,400
computers all around the world so the

1268
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,440
nsa can't crack it you know wow

1269
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,240
wow that's nsa can't crack it well i ha

1270
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:40,400
i had bought a like a 100 worth of

1271
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,520
bitcoin

1272
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:42,800
way back

1273
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,800
enough to like it's uh astonishing what

1274
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:51,119
happened to it you know

1275
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:52,560
yeah do you still have it or did you

1276
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,680
keep it i do

1277
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:55,920
still have it oh cool yeah yeah

1278
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,480
i haven't checked on in a long time but

1279
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,400
yeah i wish i had more bitcoin yeah it

1280
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,319
well it's just one form of the

1281
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:03,520
technology

1282
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,800
it's like the

1283
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,480
the one trick pony you know that's all

1284
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,119
it does is it burns tons of energy to

1285
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,839
secure the network so that nobody can

1286
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,160
can break it essentially

1287
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,599
but there's many now they're making

1288
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:17,599
hundreds of other blockchains

1289
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,800
that are much faster much cheaper but

1290
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,160
they don't have nearly the security

1291
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,760
obviously you know that's all bitcoin

1292
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,280
had it's a database you know where are

1293
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:27,040
the ones and zeros

1294
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,480
and that's it

1295
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,640
that's it but now you

1296
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,400
the security aspect of it what people

1297
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:34,079
don't understand is

1298
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:35,920
um

1299
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:38,880
as long as you do a few simple things

1300
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:42,160
to secure your assets it's way way safer

1301
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,760
it's way more secure

1302
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,400
right but like you we just don't you

1303
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:47,920
don't know what that is yet like you

1304
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,640
wouldn't send your credit card uh you

1305
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,760
wouldn't send all your credit card

1306
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,359
numbers to

1307
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,960
somebody you don't trust

1308
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,800
right along with your address you

1309
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,560
wouldn't send them all the information

1310
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,319
but you would send it to a vendor in

1311
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,240
order to buy something

1312
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:04,240
right so you this to you is obvious

1313
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,359
you're like yeah of course i would send

1314
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,280
it to that person right but but you

1315
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,119
wouldn't send it to the unscrupulous

1316
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,440
person so you know how what to hide you

1317
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,960
know you know not to give away the three

1318
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:14,000
little numbers on the back of your

1319
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:15,040
credit card

1320
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,400
right but try and explain that to your

1321
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,319
kids it's going to take years to explain

1322
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,760
the credit system

1323
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:21,359
you know to kids

1324
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:23,119
so it's not it's not like it's more

1325
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,400
difficult

1326
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,480
it's the same level of complexity it's

1327
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:28,400
quite easy it's open source you know

1328
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,920
that's why it's open source that's why

1329
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:31,280
they can't crack it

1330
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,640
um so yeah it's definitely coming um

1331
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:36,160
yeah you already have bitcoin you have

1332
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,440
more than me so you're you're on your

1333
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,000
way well yeah well a little but i think

1334
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,760
we can use it that's what i'm saying we

1335
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,760
can use the technology

1336
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,560
um

1337
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,720
to to break through you know it's

1338
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:49,119
disruptive technology it's disruptive it

1339
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,480
is going to disrupt the hell out of

1340
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,920
everything like i promise like it's

1341
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,160
going to disrupt um so

1342
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,560
i want to get in at the ground level

1343
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,200
um and orient it the movement or

1344
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,280
whatever towards towards science because

1345
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,200
right now all i thought i didn't see any

1346
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:05,119
there was no mention of science science

1347
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:06,640
at the last two conferences i was at

1348
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,079
there's nothing they didn't talk about

1349
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,240
education they didn't talk about science

1350
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:11,920
uh all they talked about was you know

1351
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,040
finance sports play to earn

1352
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:16,960
pay to earn games you know different

1353
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,200
types of games casinos

1354
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,319
you know there was

1355
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:21,839
after a while i was like going crazy

1356
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,319
like i wanted to kind of make a scene

1357
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:25,599
you know and be like hey guys where's

1358
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:27,280
the science but i was there as a media

1359
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,240
writer

1360
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,760
uh you know i didn't want to be like the

1361
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,920
media guy that got in free and then just

1362
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,680
starts chanting decide you know

1363
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,359
decentralized science that's what i want

1364
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,000
to create decide ah hey well that's

1365
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,240
interesting uh this this guy makes a

1366
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,839
really good point as far as stepping

1367
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,000
back you know going backwards in history

1368
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,240
the burning of the alexandria library

1369
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,400
that was like an uh caesar's time i

1370
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:50,640
believe like a thousand year history was

1371
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:51,920
burned or something like that if i

1372
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,839
remember right something like that but

1373
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,200
uh yeah

1374
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,160
that's true oh my god can you imagine so

1375
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,079
uh i want to there's a question up here

1376
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:02,559
are you aware of the 23 minute video i

1377
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:05,119
tried to to last time i had lou on the

1378
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:06,640
show i tried to get him to talk about

1379
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,200
that did did have you spoke to him

1380
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,720
anymore about that then

1381
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,640
no i've only talking to lou that one

1382
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:15,040
time you know which yeah

1383
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,400
which is probably good you know because

1384
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:18,319
he has a top secret he still has a

1385
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,680
security clearance

1386
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:22,079
and he's talking to me i don't and yeah

1387
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:23,599
i don't know couldn't just cause issues

1388
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,839
so i think he's just kind of avoided

1389
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:28,000
you know direct online

1390
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,440
yeah he hasn't

1391
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,839
wait a minute i've got uh okay i've got

1392
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:33,440
someone that needs to be booted out i

1393
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,800
don't have uh

1394
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,800
i don't have my

1395
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,880
uh let me get this someone's trying to

1396
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,880
put webcams up there

1397
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:43,040
sorry about that everyone i i don't have

1398
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,960
my uh moderator in there tonight so

1399
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,440
please be kind to me um so here's

1400
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:51,040
another question up here

1401
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:52,319
yeah i'll answer it while you're looking

1402
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:53,359
at it

1403
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,760
let's see martin willis live shows chris

1404
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,920
from jln chris mentioned the catskill's

1405
00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,280
book does he have a comment on the

1406
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:01,920
connection that's discovered between uap

1407
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:04,000
and paranormal events or the hitchhiker

1408
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,520
phenomena until people experienced

1409
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,400
yeah i'm going to blind frog ranch

1410
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,960
you know that's in the vernal valley

1411
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,559
i talked to another guy who was going

1412
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,960
there and they invited me up there you

1413
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,559
know and initially i was like

1414
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,640
i had to think about it

1415
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:22,079
uh and

1416
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,280
where was that

1417
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,960
it's in the vernal it's right next to

1418
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,440
skinwalker ranch blind frog ranch when

1419
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:28,640
are you going there when you're out

1420
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,440
there

1421
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,119
yeah geez i might have to make an

1422
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,040
emergency trip out there i don't know if

1423
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,960
you come man

1424
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,040
we have to get you in

1425
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:39,200
to meet my plus one

1426
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:41,200
uh actually electricity is already my

1427
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,160
plus one

1428
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,319
yeah i'll be dragging someone along with

1429
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:45,920
it it's pretty far from

1430
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,839
from maine though it's pretty far yeah i

1431
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:50,000
know that would be awesome i feel like i

1432
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,839
feel like doing a lot of traveling

1433
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,760
lately so i've been doing a lot of that

1434
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,520
and i'm enjoying it a lot

1435
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,040
so yeah you should come out i think it'd

1436
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,200
be awesome um

1437
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,920
but uh let's see i was answering uh

1438
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,520
yeah hitchhiker effect

1439
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,520
so i had to think about it um because

1440
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,160
yeah i mean after reading that book

1441
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:10,720
i had another partner i was working with

1442
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:13,440
behind the scenes anonymously

1443
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:16,480
um and he actually quit because

1444
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,040
yeah he started seeing orange orbs

1445
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,280
uh you know he saw him at like his work

1446
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:24,000
and he saw him back at his house

1447
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,200
and so

1448
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,960
yeah i mean and then after read that

1449
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,559
book you're like great you know it's

1450
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,240
this contagious effect it's going to

1451
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,559
affect your family

1452
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,400
so yeah i think you have to consider it

1453
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,400
you know if you're in this field

1454
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,319
so yeah you know i mean had a i had a

1455
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,720
long time researcher on i don't know a

1456
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,400
few months ago and he basically said he

1457
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:44,000
got away from this because of things

1458
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,119
happening

1459
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:47,520
and he's kind of dipping his toe back in

1460
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,599
the water a little bit

1461
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,640
you know

1462
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,040
so um yeah

1463
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:55,119
luckily i haven't had anything

1464
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,559
i've had a few times where i thought i

1465
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,720
saw a ufo but it ended up being

1466
00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:00,720
something else which is fine with me i'd

1467
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:02,000
rather

1468
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,400
you know um

1469
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,200
i really don't want to i i want to be

1470
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:12,319
darn sure that i'm seeing a ufo

1471
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,839
before i say publicly i'm seeing a ufo

1472
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,319
you know what i mean so and and one of

1473
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:20,559
them i'm going to see if i kept it here

1474
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,680
is so bizarre i hope i kept it on here

1475
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,119
um

1476
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,359
because it looks

1477
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:29,920
it looked just exactly

1478
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,559
um shoot oh yes i have it right here

1479
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:34,400
here it goes at first when you're

1480
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,319
looking at it it looks like a ufo then

1481
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:38,319
it looks like two and this was down to

1482
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,319
miami um i don't know in february

1483
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:44,079
okay there it goes

1484
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,520
you can see it kind of looks like a

1485
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,680
saucer right and it's hard to see it's

1486
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,119
kind of small

1487
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,480
but

1488
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:52,800
and then you start to see

1489
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:57,359
two and about right here

1490
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,480
uh

1491
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:00,800
where'd it go okay there it comes back

1492
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,480
as two you can see the two right there

1493
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,640
um barely see

1494
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:09,359
two but anyway that ended up being a

1495
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:12,720
plane pulling a banner behind it

1496
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,680
and it was just the angles of it turning

1497
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,200
and that's why for a while it looked

1498
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:19,359
like two ufos

1499
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:23,200
so and that was i mean i i got uh

1500
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:26,000
in miami up on this ship and i'm looking

1501
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:27,680
out and i said oh my god i'm here two

1502
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:30,480
minutes and i'm seeing a ufo

1503
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:33,040
and uh but i really don't want to come

1504
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,559
out and say that i

1505
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:36,480
you know i want to be i i feel like

1506
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:38,319
there's a credibility factor here and i

1507
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,079
really don't want to

1508
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,000
go down the road of uh

1509
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,160
saying i'm seeing ufo when it can be

1510
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,240
explained i'd rather it be explained if

1511
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,870
and what if it's ufo though would you

1512
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,599
would you be happy you filmed it

1513
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:54,480
uh

1514
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:57,200
if i was absolutely unable to

1515
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,480
um you know say what it was uh and then

1516
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,160
nobody else could help me with it like

1517
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,800
uh there's mark d'antonio from mufon

1518
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,559
he's a video analyst

1519
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,119
uh for a mufon and he helps me quite a

1520
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:11,200
bit i had another experience

1521
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,880
um when i thought for sure i was seeing

1522
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,040
something crazy and

1523
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,880
he said it looks like it could be a

1524
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,960
drone even though there was high winds

1525
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:22,800
or whatever it looked like it could be a

1526
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:25,760
drone and i totally agree it's i have

1527
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,640
really put that in the drone category so

1528
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,920
um yeah

1529
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,839
if something is complete i mean i would

1530
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,839
love to see when i'm always looking the

1531
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,400
the one thing my first sighting has done

1532
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,319
for me it keeps me looking in the sky

1533
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:40,240
all the time i'm always looking up

1534
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,680
you know other people may be looking at

1535
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:42,720
their phone

1536
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:45,760
but i'm looking up a lot of the time and

1537
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:46,720
uh

1538
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,720
it's it is kind of interesting with

1539
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:53,040
uh you know the comment you hear a lot

1540
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,800
out there is okay how come we don't

1541
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:56,640
really have any really good videos if

1542
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:59,440
there's nine billion phones out there i

1543
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,720
don't know if there's that many but

1544
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,319
there's quite a few

1545
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,200
so or can i share my screen oh please do

1546
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:07,520
yes i saw you were doing something

1547
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,640
yeah have you

1548
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,359
uh do you know about sky 360

1549
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,200
i do not

1550
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,599
okay cool this is um

1551
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,359
this is one of the companies we're

1552
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,359
partnering with so this is are you

1553
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:21,040
talking about your your the thing that

1554
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:22,240
you're doing now

1555
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,520
yeah the thing i'm not supposed to talk

1556
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,000
a lot about right

1557
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:27,599
but i will because i think it's

1558
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,800
important um this is sky360.org

1559
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:32,640
it's citizen science

1560
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,400
out of austria so it's non-profit

1561
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:38,400
um and so basically

1562
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,319
what they want to do is put up these

1563
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:42,880
camera systems

1564
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,400
the globe the goal is 150 000 systems

1565
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,319
around around the world

1566
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,280
wow um and basically

1567
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:55,760
this is just the initial so this is a

1568
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,240
fisheye lens you see this is all the way

1569
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:59,359
around

1570
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,559
oh so

1571
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:02,160
is that why we're seeing like the cloud

1572
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,440
in a curvature

1573
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,240
yep so this is one fisheye lens you know

1574
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,960
it sees the whole sky

1575
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,079
yep

1576
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,640
and the goal and i'll just play this

1577
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,319
here you'll see there's the uap here

1578
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,880
this is from one in houston

1579
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:19,119
on this date

1580
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:22,559
um and you'll see it stops here right

1581
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:24,880
and then it'll it'll start moving again

1582
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,990
so this was uh

1583
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,400
now for those of you listening to audio

1584
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,520
um i uh chris if you would send me the

1585
00:55:41,230 --> 00:55:37,440
link to this website and i'll put this

1586
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,109
sky360.org.org okay sky360.org

1587
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:48,480
for those of you listening audio uh

1588
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,359
yeah so in that in that this one

1589
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,789
what type of uh backup systems do they

1590
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,559
have as far as

1591
00:56:03,510 --> 00:55:59,920
other things that this could be

1592
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,520
explained to explain to be

1593
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,440
do they have i mean the only thing i can

1594
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:07,680
think of is that it's some sort of drone

1595
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,680
you know because if it's in space um

1596
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,760
you know it how does it stop and then

1597
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,200
start moving again in space i don't

1598
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,960
understand that

1599
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,240
um

1600
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,400
oh this is in space actually

1601
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,240
no no so we don't know how far away it

1602
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,160
is that's the problem so i'll go back so

1603
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:26,240
this is basically in houston you have an

1604
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,839
enclosure and maybe i'll just go back

1605
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:29,599
here and explain a little bit

1606
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,480
all right

1607
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,040
i can get out of this full-size

1608
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,720
yep if we have an enclosure here

1609
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,640
this thing all right

1610
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,720
so this is one in one enclosure they're

1611
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,960
trying to put 150 000 of these around

1612
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,880
the world so wow we're designing them

1613
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,720
now yeah i'm i've been working with them

1614
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,160
richard hoff

1615
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,559
i interviewed them on my channel and so

1616
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,920
what we're seeing here is that is a

1617
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,599
fisheye

1618
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,880
uh image

1619
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,359
it's called material out of this

1620
00:57:02,230 --> 00:56:59,520
right and what what needs to happen is

1621
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,240
to train the ai using that material you

1622
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:04,960
just saw and that'll that'll lead in

1623
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:07,599
this point to zoom this is a spin around

1624
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,400
zoom in camera right so this will zoom

1625
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,359
in

1626
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,359
and get that hd

1627
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,599
video that everybody's talking about you

1628
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,880
know

1629
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,440
and so the idea is it's

1630
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,680
you put this system out it's designed to

1631
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:24,000
be able to see the iss

1632
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:24,839
up

1633
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:27,920
here and then

1634
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,109
like i just showed you right

1635
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:37,760
yep it'll see something weird

1636
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,400
and the ai will say hey

1637
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,240
look over here and the other camera will

1638
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:45,359
zoom in and zoom in on this thing

1639
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,559
um and so the the the strength will be

1640
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:50,480
first you get that hd image right and

1641
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,559
this this should be doing it all all the

1642
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:54,960
time you know 24 7.

1643
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,839
but if we get two two or more systems in

1644
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,440
houston for instance if you put another

1645
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:01,760
system in houston now we can triangulate

1646
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,640
this

1647
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,720
would you need a road

1648
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,960
two systems or three systems

1649
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:09,359
well to triangulate just like your eyes

1650
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:12,240
you need two i see but if we get three

1651
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:14,799
it's just gonna make the solution better

1652
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,920
now what about the uh inclement weather

1653
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:20,079
and the fisheye lens and all that how

1654
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:21,680
does that yeah so that you're always

1655
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,799
going to have those issues you know

1656
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,440
you're going to have to deal with clouds

1657
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,520
but i'm talking about what about snow

1658
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,000
rain heavy rain things like that i mean

1659
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,559
exactly that well that's why so what we

1660
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,799
would do is is basically get interested

1661
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,880
people right so interested people

1662
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,359
universities uap groups those types of

1663
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,520
things around the world

1664
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:43,680
that want to put these systems together

1665
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,240
and monitor them you know knock the snow

1666
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:48,880
off basically care for them

1667
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,839
um but the idea is we would provide the

1668
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:54,319
funding at least for some of these

1669
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,920
you know for as many as for as many as

1670
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:58,000
we can like if there's a uap community

1671
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,040
in in la you know a uap group and

1672
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,119
they're like we'll put out five

1673
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:05,520
give us you know twenty five thousand

1674
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:07,760
dollars and we can put up five of these

1675
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:10,640
systems now we can cover all of la you

1676
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:13,440
know we cover all of la uh with nine

1677
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:14,960
systems i believe

1678
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:17,520
now tell me will this have a central

1679
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,760
uh accessibility

1680
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,880
um

1681
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,040
for so anyone can can

1682
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,079
is this another open situation

1683
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:28,319
yeah it's non-nonprofit so basically the

1684
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,440
hardware

1685
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:31,760
uh right now they're developing the the

1686
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,920
hardware that you can order

1687
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,000
and you just order it on

1688
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,799
amazon global

1689
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,400
and then you develop and then you

1690
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:42,720
download the software which is

1691
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:45,599
right now is being developed on for free

1692
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:47,440
on github

1693
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,200
but that's really what we need is we

1694
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:52,079
need the software ai uh

1695
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,440
integration

1696
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:55,119
yeah there's a number of people that

1697
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,559
have been trying to do this sort of

1698
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,359
thing

1699
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,440
you know my friend chris o'brien has

1700
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:01,920
been working on something like this

1701
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,040
is it bob skyhub is uh no that's um i

1702
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:07,200
know who you're you're thinking of

1703
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:08,240
um

1704
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,040
uh two or three times i'm trying to

1705
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:14,319
think okay his name's uh escaping me

1706
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:15,760
right now i can't can't remember who it

1707
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,920
is but uh a great great guy i there's uh

1708
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,599
three or four people that i know that

1709
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,000
are involved in that one i'm not sure

1710
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,559
what chris o'brien's is called also mark

1711
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:29,200
d'antonio who i mentioned earlier is a

1712
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:30,319
mufon

1713
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:33,359
you know uh video analyst he has one

1714
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,119
he's been working on

1715
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:37,599
for uh quite a few years

1716
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:38,799
um so

1717
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:40,880
uh all all really you know i mean the

1718
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,799
more the better as far as i'm concerned

1719
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:44,960
you're talking 150 000 of these out

1720
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,760
there

1721
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,599
that's what he's aiming for yeah that's

1722
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,839
richard's aiming for it's awesome um

1723
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:51,440
we're going to well the idea is

1724
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,559
yeah you can do it at your house um he's

1725
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,119
right now they're developing it up to

1726
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:59,520
it's one to five thousand dollars

1727
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:01,520
you know so let's say you you want to do

1728
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:03,359
it for a thousand dollars

1729
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:04,960
you could buy the lower system but it's

1730
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:07,920
much harder to to design a system

1731
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,480
that works at a thousand dollars um so

1732
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,839
right now you know i think they're

1733
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,760
working on the five thousand dollar

1734
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,599
system and then once that fully

1735
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:17,280
developed with the software now they can

1736
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:18,880
upload it um

1737
01:01:23,829 --> 01:01:21,599
yeah so i just one last thing is as you

1738
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:23,839
notice here this is developed this whole

1739
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,680
these systems here right so now they can

1740
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:27,440
triangulate

1741
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:30,160
are developed to be able to see the iss

1742
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,119
just to as a benchmark

1743
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:34,799
so what you can do is if you have a

1744
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:36,960
system already developed here you can

1745
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:39,119
turn it around and put it somewhere into

1746
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,480
a satellite

1747
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:42,720
and now you can do it from the other

1748
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:46,240
side right it should all be

1749
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:47,680
at least the hardware should work the

1750
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:49,280
problem is the software because now we

1751
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:51,760
need new material because your material

1752
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:53,440
that you're looking at you need to train

1753
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:55,599
your ai against is not just open sky

1754
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,280
with a few clouds you know now it's like

1755
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,839
the ground you have tons of different

1756
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,359
it's a whole different ball game to deal

1757
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,880
with looking down

1758
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:04,960
um right but you know maybe we just aim

1759
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,039
it maybe we aim it straight out you know

1760
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:09,039
maybe we're not we don't need to look

1761
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:11,599
down you know maybe we're gonna orient

1762
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:13,839
it so it's looking um

1763
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,520
for any uaps entering the atmosphere or

1764
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,039
something

1765
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,520
i see so um so

1766
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:22,319
is it is does this thing have like a a

1767
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:23,359
motion

1768
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,640
activation or is it on all the time

1769
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:29,440
yeah so the idea is it's on all the time

1770
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,119
running this um

1771
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,039
like you saw that image you saw this is

1772
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,039
searching all the time right it's a

1773
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:37,440
night vision camera it's near ir you

1774
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:39,920
know it's not it's uh it can see in the

1775
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:41,520
day and night

1776
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,319
um and then the ai is really important

1777
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:46,319
just to say hey where does it need to

1778
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:47,920
look because there's always some there's

1779
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,319
birds there's bugs you know inspects

1780
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:51,920
always flying across like all the things

1781
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,880
you have to worry about when you're

1782
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:54,240
analyzing a video you know what would

1783
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:57,119
mick west say this is um so you have to

1784
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:59,760
analyze that out but it will point out

1785
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,799
to this

1786
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,119
and this has a spinning mechanism in

1787
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:05,680
here okay it's like this uh designed

1788
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,559
engineer it can spin fully constantly if

1789
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:10,079
it needs to right you don't want to spin

1790
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,839
it all the time obviously

1791
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:14,400
but it will spin and then it has a zoom

1792
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:15,280
in

1793
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,960
zoom camera now

1794
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:19,440
that can zoom in and get us like the hd

1795
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:20,480
video

1796
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:22,880
um that we want this is that's the whole

1797
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:28,630
yeah no no i think that i think it's

1798
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:32,640
actually a a really good idea now i had

1799
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:34,880
someone on the show way back

1800
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:38,640
at some point that was talking about uh

1801
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,880
the cubesat launch

1802
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:43,119
and people investing in that have you

1803
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:45,760
ever heard about that whole situation

1804
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,440
that's i kind of in in uh and talks

1805
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,079
about that you know we're researching it

1806
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:54,400
yep it costs around 350 000 to launch a

1807
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:55,920
cubesat

1808
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,480
you can also buy little you don't you

1809
01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:00,799
can get on larger satellites

1810
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,559
that you can just rent like a little

1811
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:04,000
spot you know

1812
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:06,559
you can rent the looking down or

1813
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:08,319
looking up

1814
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:10,160
you can actually rent space on a

1815
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:11,280
satellite

1816
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:15,670
that seems actually really good that

1817
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:18,480
seems like a really good idea

1818
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:20,720
that if someone if someone can train i

1819
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:23,119
don't know if these things are stable or

1820
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,480
if they rotate

1821
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:26,720
but um it seems like

1822
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:28,960
you could put some equipment on

1823
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,640
um that would

1824
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:31,920
really

1825
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:34,799
get some information it would seem

1826
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:37,280
yeah i mean these are so this is real

1827
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,720
uaps you know captured by these uh by

1828
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,559
this site

1829
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:44,880
you know if you imagine we have just if

1830
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,119
we just had one more

1831
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,359
you know in houston at that time and

1832
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:51,599
then we can correlate so the point is if

1833
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:52,960
you put out one of these systems right

1834
01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:54,720
if we send the money

1835
01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:55,599
um

1836
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:57,680
then you have to put it on the system it

1837
01:05:01,589 --> 01:05:00,079
has to be open source you know

1838
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:01,599
and so

1839
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:03,440
it will we can correlate it and now we

1840
01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:06,240
could say how far away this is

1841
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,599
right because the problem is i can't

1842
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:10,160
tell you it could be a drone maybe

1843
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,079
you know a few thousand feet up just

1844
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:13,920
blinking drone somebody putting it out

1845
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:14,799
there

1846
01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:15,680
um

1847
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:18,000
or it could be you know if it's 10 miles

1848
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,079
away now that makes a big difference

1849
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:22,880
right how high this thing is so this

1850
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:25,760
this uh circle that i'm looking at how

1851
01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:28,720
many miles would you say that is in and

1852
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,119
this is the moon i think right that's

1853
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:33,119
like the moon there's venus you know so

1854
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:36,079
this is there's a building here and then

1855
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:37,359
it looks all the way over so you're

1856
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:39,119
looking at the whole sky right now the

1857
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,280
whole sky looking at the whole sky like

1858
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,359
if you were if you were there yourself

1859
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:44,960
looking up you're looking at the entire

1860
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,000
sky

1861
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:48,000
yeah through like a fisheye lens you

1862
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:49,280
know what a fisheye lens yeah like

1863
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:51,039
here's a crane yeah so i can see the

1864
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,559
right side there's some you know there's

1865
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,799
a storm over here going on and i can see

1866
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,720
the left side where that uap thing just

1867
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:57,680
flew

1868
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:59,920
yeah so you can see the whole sky here

1869
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:01,119
the problem is

1870
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:02,720
is you can't really break out any

1871
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:04,559
details you know yes

1872
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:06,960
because your sensor it's all related to

1873
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,720
the optics which really relates down to

1874
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:10,240
the sensor size

1875
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:11,680
and we don't really have any good

1876
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:14,240
infrared sensor technology just because

1877
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,799
it's not so popular um you know

1878
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,480
we have much better optical cameras

1879
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,079
because we make millions and millions of

1880
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:22,160
them for our cell phones and our cameras

1881
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,400
and everything but infrared sensors are

1882
01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:26,400
very are very hard to get

1883
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:28,400
so that's why they're really expensive i

1884
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,400
could almost foresee a second generation

1885
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:32,720
or third generation of something like

1886
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:36,240
this having a single camera with a

1887
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:39,200
telephoto lens that would focus in ai

1888
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:41,359
into a moving object

1889
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:43,839
that that's it yeah that's our

1890
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:48,079
that's the idea so this basically the ai

1891
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:49,920
right that we're that we that we need to

1892
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:52,480
train using this material

1893
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,559
you would say okay ignore this it's the

1894
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,520
moon

1895
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:58,079
you know uh ignore this because it is

1896
01:07:02,309 --> 01:06:59,200
clouds

1897
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,319
right but now this

1898
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,079
is something weird

1899
01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:06,799
so we can't identify that so zoom in on

1900
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,559
this and that's where it would tell the

1901
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,799
zoom camera look at this angle you know

1902
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:13,119
this azimuth this elevation

1903
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,960
um and it would track it

1904
01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:15,839
yeah

1905
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,599
that could be super powerful and and

1906
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:21,760
that's just yeah

1907
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:23,920
this is the first generation so we we

1908
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:26,240
just uh keep keep improving it until we

1909
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,440
find the truth yeah

1910
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,280
or until we get at least we can get more

1911
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:33,200
evidence i think everyone whether

1912
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:34,480
however you look at it we can get more

1913
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,119
evidence and for these systems now

1914
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,280
in order to identify something

1915
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:41,200
um or in order to call something

1916
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:42,880
unidentified you have to try and

1917
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,920
identify it as everything else right

1918
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,680
um so you can use these systems for

1919
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:49,440
regular science

1920
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,200
right you can use it for to track bird

1921
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,200
migrations if that's what you're into or

1922
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:55,760
you want to track star you know meteors

1923
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,720
you can track uh meteor impacts

1924
01:08:01,990 --> 01:07:59,920
um so

1925
01:08:03,309 --> 01:08:02,000
we can get a lot of other data for this

1926
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:03,319
you know the actual

1927
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:06,480
sky360.org is for citizen science

1928
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,960
um but ultimately it's towards finding

1929
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:10,880
unidentified aerial phenomena is i you

1930
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,400
know i know richard i think he's

1931
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:14,319
organized towards that but in order to

1932
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:15,839
do that you need to get all this other

1933
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:17,199
science

1934
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:18,480
so we can still use it still be

1935
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:19,679
beneficial

1936
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:20,560
yeah

1937
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,239
i you know you have to go

1938
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:24,560
along the lines of guilty until proven

1939
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:26,880
innocent and innocent would only mean

1940
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:29,040
that it's unidentified you know you have

1941
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:32,319
to look constantly try to play devil's

1942
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,080
advocate of every which way of what it

1943
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,239
is now when i'm looking at this i'm

1944
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,960
seeing a steady flashing light which

1945
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,799
would make me think that

1946
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:42,640
you know unless this is doing really

1947
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:44,159
strange maneuvers

1948
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:48,000
that it's probably some type of uh

1949
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:50,000
either aircraft or

1950
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:52,319
like you said drone something like that

1951
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,839
um

1952
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:55,440
you see the way that light is strobing

1953
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,719
isn't that typical for an aircraft

1954
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,640
yeah there's another i think earlier in

1955
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,640
this this one there is an aircraft if

1956
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,560
you look there's one here

1957
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,640
this is a aircraft

1958
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:09,679
oh i see wow it looks a lot bigger

1959
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:10,480
yeah

1960
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:15,199
huh

1961
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:17,120
interesting wow

1962
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:18,319
yeah

1963
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,400
well i wish uh that

1964
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,319
that's that's another interesting

1965
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:24,560
thought and i think one of the things

1966
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,239
that would really help this

1967
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:28,799
um compared to other situations that

1968
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:31,279
i've listened to people explain

1969
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:33,440
that this is going to have a numbers

1970
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,319
thing if you actually do get 150 000 of

1971
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,080
these things out there

1972
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,839
um i mean that's

1973
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,440
that's ambitious

1974
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:44,239
but yeah yeah super ambitious yeah

1975
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:47,679
but if you do um you know there's a lot

1976
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:48,799
of times

1977
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:50,960
when i've been out looking for meteors

1978
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,319
or something i

1979
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:54,880
have this silly thought i wonder if you

1980
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:57,120
could have a camera here for the last

1981
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,880
thousand years what you would see go

1982
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:00,080
overhead

1983
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:02,239
and um you know i think of things like

1984
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:03,440
that just

1985
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:05,440
because i do and

1986
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:09,360
um this kind of is going to do that

1987
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:11,120
you know it's going to have a lot of uh

1988
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:13,600
eyes up into the sky which is

1989
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,440
uh

1990
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,520
i think a great idea

1991
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:19,679
yeah i love it's open source you know

1992
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,239
yeah anyone can look at it and would

1993
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,000
that mean that anyone can look at it

1994
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:26,080
even if they don't have

1995
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:28,239
money invested

1996
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:30,880
yes yeah definitely the whole point is

1997
01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:33,920
open source so get the information

1998
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,080
the whole point is open source you know

1999
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,640
i i think maybe if we need to some size

2000
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:40,400
make it more profitable because

2001
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,600
the bottom line if something's

2002
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,080
profitable it's going to happen

2003
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,120
you know the pro things that don't if

2004
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,040
it's profitable it needs to be stopped

2005
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,840
by some force of government or

2006
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:53,760
movement you know it has to be stopped

2007
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,239
um so we i want to make it profitable in

2008
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,480
some way if in that may take you know

2009
01:11:01,669 --> 01:11:00,320
delaying the information slightly if

2010
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,679
there's some benefit to citizen

2011
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,199
scientists because i know there is a lot

2012
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,280
of benefit to meteors

2013
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:07,360
you know if you can actually uh track

2014
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:11,520
down where a meteor impacts the ground

2015
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,719
they're very

2016
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,960
valuable yes they are yeah i think it

2017
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,600
was thousands of dollars per gram yeah

2018
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:19,440
you can get it's pretty easy to get 20

2019
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,800
grand for uh

2020
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:23,199
media right

2021
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:25,520
you know yeah 20 grand i i heard much

2022
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:27,360
more right 300 no but i mean for a

2023
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:29,040
little media right you can hold it in

2024
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:30,640
your hand you can get 20 grand for it

2025
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:33,520
i've heard that um and i've i've been at

2026
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,960
a house i'm not going to say who it is

2027
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:37,120
but he's a ufo researcher we have

2028
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,400
several of them and some of them are

2029
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,520
pretty big

2030
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:41,520
he's been collecting for a very long

2031
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,480
time

2032
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,880
pretty amazing to see them

2033
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,120
yeah they're big money i guess um

2034
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,800
they're big money you can tell basically

2035
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:50,880
how they enter where they came from

2036
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:52,560
uh where they're formed

2037
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:53,679
you know if they came from the asteroid

2038
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:56,560
belt some of them come from mars

2039
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,239
yeah there's there's already american

2040
01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,880
meteor society they have a program like

2041
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:02,000
this

2042
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:07,440
all they need is where's the giant rock

2043
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,120
going you know they're not trying to get

2044
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:11,199
the hd video

2045
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,920
yeah um and they have we need real time

2046
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:16,640
uh we need real-time processing

2047
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:19,440
also because we need to cue the ai onto

2048
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:21,120
this one sensor and that's why they're

2049
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:22,640
using one sensor you can get higher

2050
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,920
resolution and less ai processing

2051
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,760
so we're going to use this one sensor to

2052
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:28,800
cue

2053
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:31,360
the hd you know zoom in camera but it's

2054
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,960
got to be real time

2055
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:34,239
so that's kind of where that's where the

2056
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,640
ai is coming in we're really kind of

2057
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,400
like the cutting edge stuff but all this

2058
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,159
is you know this is all doable

2059
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:42,239
technology you know really the one

2060
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:43,360
little thing we got to get through is

2061
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,480
the ai

2062
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:46,960
which is tough but ai is coming along so

2063
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:49,040
fast and

2064
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,880
the the experts i've talked to say yeah

2065
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,040
it's it's doable for sure yeah i mean

2066
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:55,360
you only have to train it one time for

2067
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:56,320
one

2068
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,520
you know situation type of thing so it

2069
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:01,440
can be done but it's it's still a lot of

2070
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:02,719
hours i'm sure

2071
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:05,360
tons and tons yeah i think you as far as

2072
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:06,800
i understand it you need the exact

2073
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:08,719
material you know we have to use this

2074
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:10,159
sensor

2075
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,040
uh to train the ai neural network

2076
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,760
um so yeah it's gonna take it takes time

2077
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:18,159
it's gonna take energy but we have you

2078
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:20,239
know the people are doing it and

2079
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,239
yeah he does everything he has a patreon

2080
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:24,000
sky360 but really it's just going to

2081
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,960
sky360.org on their discord is really

2082
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:28,640
how they organize and so you can go

2083
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,600
there you can just say hey i'm

2084
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,600
interested i want to get involved and

2085
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:33,280
then you know you got to kind of read up

2086
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,960
and see where you can fit in but yeah

2087
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,280
they're it's team grassroots engineers

2088
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:39,440
man so cool i love it so nerdy and so

2089
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,480
cool

2090
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:42,000
maybe i should put one on my boat this

2091
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,040
summer

2092
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:45,199
i would i want to put it on oil derricks

2093
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:46,640
i think that would be sweet i think that

2094
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,880
would be a great idea actually yeah yeah

2095
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,239
could you imagine away from the light

2096
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:52,400
pollution

2097
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:53,600
all right are you going to pull this

2098
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:55,679
screen down yeah sorry i didn't i didn't

2099
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,760
that's all right so we have um we have a

2100
01:14:03,830 --> 01:13:59,520
question up here going all the way back

2101
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:03,840
to you mentioned remote viewing which uh

2102
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,360
i think is pretty interesting because uh

2103
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:09,120
there seems to be something to that

2104
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,159
let's see

2105
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:12,239
uh ask chris if he's aware of high level

2106
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:15,120
remote viewing group's focus on crypto

2107
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,400
are you familiar with this particular

2108
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:18,480
one

2109
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,239
i haven't focuses on run by dick algar

2110
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:23,840
and daz smith

2111
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,520
no i haven't heard

2112
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:27,360
that's a shame what do they do they

2113
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:29,840
remote view uh the future

2114
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,400
i don't know i don't know

2115
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:34,480
i was thinking think of this um i

2116
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:35,920
mentioned um

2117
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:36,880
uh

2118
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,280
so bitcoin the way it works is each

2119
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,520
computer it's mining for a certain

2120
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:43,679
random number inside of a very large

2121
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:45,440
group of random numbers right that's

2122
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:48,880
called a 256 hash or sha however to say

2123
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,840
it

2124
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,520
i was thinking though if you could use

2125
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:53,280
remote viewing

2126
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:56,239
right and you could tell your computer

2127
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:57,920
uh which

2128
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:00,320
like bottom third middle third or upper

2129
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:01,120
third

2130
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,159
of that

2131
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:03,600
number to look for you know could the

2132
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:06,239
computers have an advantage

2133
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:07,520
um

2134
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:13,679
you know if it's possible remote viewing

2135
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:15,760
human remote viewing

2136
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:19,199
in conjunction with the computer to

2137
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,480
get the answer

2138
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,960
to break through cryptological uh things

2139
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:24,800
would that be possible to remote view

2140
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:26,480
whatever number's coming up next so that

2141
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,640
that bitcoin uh

2142
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,040
you know would actually that minor

2143
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:33,199
uh will get the answer faster

2144
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:35,520
they could i could hurt them do that

2145
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:36,560
um

2146
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:40,159
doing really well

2147
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,080
yeah yeah uh

2148
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,320
let's see have you seen i saw this

2149
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:46,400
documentary years ago what the bleep do

2150
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,640
we know did you ever see that

2151
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:50,880
no i haven't oh it's really fascinating

2152
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,719
and i don't know how that relates to any

2153
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:54,080
of this i'm just looking through

2154
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:56,000
questions and thank you for those who

2155
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:58,560
put them in caps someone said martin do

2156
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:01,520
a video when you're there i am here by

2157
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,880
the way this is me hello i am here uh

2158
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,159
maybe someone thought this is a

2159
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,159
pre-record or not or or something like

2160
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:10,000
that um

2161
01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:11,600
and what do you think about someone

2162
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:12,719
wants to know what do you think about

2163
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:14,880
the tic tac video

2164
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:17,520
in general you did a lot of work on that

2165
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:20,080
yeah i've done many many videos gone

2166
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:21,120
into

2167
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:23,520
i think too much depth actually i think

2168
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:24,560
um

2169
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,679
i think people have gotten wrapped

2170
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:28,080
around the axle of like is it rotating

2171
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:29,600
is it glare you know they've been able

2172
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:32,320
to kind of describe the the narrative

2173
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,520
you know um

2174
01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:35,600
but i i would i might actually make a

2175
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:37,280
video about it this week

2176
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,400
is and the pilot testimony to me is some

2177
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:42,000
of the best

2178
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:44,960
um for david fravor and alex dietrich to

2179
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:47,600
listen to both of them talk about it

2180
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:49,360
i don't think it gets better than that

2181
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,760
really i mean

2182
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:54,080
as a fellow pilot you must have respect

2183
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,920
for that i would think

2184
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,600
that's what really turned me on to this

2185
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:59,760
whole subject was fravor's initial

2186
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:01,120
interview

2187
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,719
that was it i mean he gave that

2188
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:04,320
interview and i like felt like i was

2189
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:06,320
there you know seeing it

2190
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:07,840
it was amazing and yeah i mean the other

2191
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,080
three combined people um

2192
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,760
i guess what's been interesting to me on

2193
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,600
the on the whole tic tac

2194
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:14,640
is

2195
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:17,040
the i guess the bigger picture on it you

2196
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,400
know if you listen to kevin day they

2197
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,880
they were tracking them from space

2198
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,159
uh they picked him up with the

2199
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,400
anti-ballistic missile defense system

2200
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:26,159
and so that's how they knew they were

2201
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,600
seeing these things they thought maybe

2202
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,440
there's very context and then they came

2203
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,600
down from 80 000 feet remember that

2204
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:34,159
that's the radar the navy spy one radar

2205
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:35,679
it could you could see

2206
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:38,320
you know up to 80 000 feet

2207
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,719
and so they tracked these from space

2208
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,960
right in groups of i think they said 15

2209
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,800
to 20 contacts

2210
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,560
uh and then they go to 80 000 feet and

2211
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,040
then go to 28 000 feet

2212
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:51,199
and then goes you know sea level back up

2213
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,520
to 28 000 they also say they just they

2214
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:55,920
would track south you know just directly

2215
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,280
south at 28 000 feet at 100 knots

2216
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,040
you know it's just and 100 knots is very

2217
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,120
slow for anything you can't stay

2218
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,040
airborne i mean i think you have to go

2219
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,880
over that in a small plane i used to fly

2220
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:08,880
a little bit um yeah i think you have to

2221
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:10,719
go like 120 or something like that i

2222
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:12,000
can't remember what it is to stay

2223
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:12,960
airborne

2224
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:16,000
but 100 knots is too slow

2225
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:18,640
yeah it's because at 18 000 feet there's

2226
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:21,840
half as much air right right yep so

2227
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,840
yeah if you go up to 28 000 feet there's

2228
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,679
less than a quarter as much air than

2229
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,199
there is at sea level

2230
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:28,960
yeah you know that i assume there's less

2231
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:30,000
than a quarter

2232
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:33,120
uh yeah quite a bit less and so

2233
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,120
you can't just go 100 you can't just go

2234
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:36,960
100 knots because there's not enough air

2235
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,800
to hold you up the way our planes work

2236
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:40,159
you know because we create lift by

2237
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,600
moving through the air

2238
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:43,760
but if there's not enough air there

2239
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:46,159
you have to actually go faster

2240
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:47,840
to maintain the same amount of lift and

2241
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,600
that's why the mach number does the

2242
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,120
whole weird right because mach doesn't

2243
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:53,040
matter uh your altitude right it somehow

2244
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:54,080
gets around the compression i can't

2245
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,199
remember

2246
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,760
um but yeah so that's it so at 28 000

2247
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,440
feet there's just not enough air to only

2248
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:01,199
go 100 knots that that's what's really

2249
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,640
weird you know that's why helicopters

2250
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:04,640
can't go very high if you helicopters

2251
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:06,400
cannot i think

2252
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:07,920
the highest helicopter has maybe gone to

2253
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:09,840
40 000 feet at the most

2254
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,760
um and that's you know they can't rescue

2255
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:14,000
people off off uh mount everest you know

2256
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,679
you're screwed on mount everest they're

2257
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:17,280
it's it's because helicopters can't get

2258
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:18,400
to you

2259
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,560
you know so yeah they can't get up

2260
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,159
nothing can get up there at that low

2261
01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:24,080
speed is is very surprising except for

2262
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:25,280
like a balloon right if you're doing

2263
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:26,719
like a that's like the weather balloon

2264
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:29,679
yeah uh it's very hard to to uh to d

2265
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:32,000
debunk is the weather balloon

2266
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:35,120
um yeah so if if

2267
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:37,760
the as as a pilot yourself

2268
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,000
knowing that you break i forget exactly

2269
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:42,560
what the speed of sound is 714 miles an

2270
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:45,280
hour or something like that

2271
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:48,640
at the sea level it's i think 650 650

2272
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,440
miles per hour but up in the air it's

2273
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:53,600
but at 28 000 feet it's only gonna be

2274
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:56,000
like um

2275
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,360
450.

2276
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:59,600
oh is that how that works so so anyway

2277
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:02,159
when you're talking about these tic tacs

2278
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,400
um shooting at that type of speed and

2279
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,199
there's no sound barrier what do you

2280
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:08,960
make of something like that

2281
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,520
some people are saying a hologram thing

2282
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:13,679
you know um what are your thoughts about

2283
01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:15,040
the hologram thing and how could a

2284
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:16,840
hologram show up on

2285
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:19,120
radar that's the biggest gotcha yeah the

2286
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,040
hologram can't show up on radar that

2287
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:24,239
that we understand how that would work

2288
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:27,040
so that's why the multiple contacts yeah

2289
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:28,239
see you know people seeing it from

2290
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:29,920
different directions and if we see it in

2291
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:30,840
different

2292
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:33,040
spectrums of the electromagnetic

2293
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:34,560
spectrum you know if you see it in

2294
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,679
infrared

2295
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:37,679
uh and you see it optically and you see

2296
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:39,520
it with radar

2297
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,800
it really seems like something's there

2298
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,560
you know especially radar i mean well i

2299
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,000
guess everything has to bounce the light

2300
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,679
waves back

2301
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:48,320
but radar yeah it bounces back

2302
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,840
and so what are your thoughts about not

2303
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:51,679
breaking the sound barrier what what do

2304
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:57,669
i mean it's that it breaks my mind yeah

2305
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:00,480
it doesn't break because how does it uh

2306
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,920
because not breaking the sound barrier

2307
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:03,360
like i mentioned earlier you know no

2308
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:04,239
sound

2309
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:09,679
reason you have this mock you know is

2310
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,280
because the air molecules get pushed

2311
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:12,880
against each other

2312
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:14,400
you know they're getting pushed against

2313
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,239
each other so fast

2314
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,719
um that it creates this this shock wave

2315
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:20,960
like a pocket or something right

2316
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:23,120
yeah basically the the sound cannot

2317
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,800
travel fast enough to get out of your

2318
01:21:28,149 --> 01:21:26,320
way you know if you're going the speed

2319
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:28,159
of sound right you're yelling it can't

2320
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,040
get

2321
01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:30,960
you can't yell fast enough

2322
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,480
for it to get out of the way so so when

2323
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:34,800
you yell it just builds up that yell

2324
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:35,840
just builds up you know if you're

2325
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,520
running the speed of sound

2326
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:39,280
um the yell will just build up and that

2327
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,000
will create this uh shock wave

2328
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:43,920
essentially it's a

2329
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,760
and so it really that's what it's caused

2330
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:46,960
by is

2331
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,639
something pushing through the air so the

2332
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,560
air being moved out of the way

2333
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:52,159
uh in a

2334
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:54,080
you know it's being pushed

2335
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:56,000
but when there's no sound and there's no

2336
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:58,000
shock wave

2337
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,840
it's if it is moving the air out of the

2338
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:01,600
way it's putting it back with it with

2339
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,920
zero really kind of change

2340
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:05,920
you know it's sliding sliding through it

2341
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,320
or sliding around it or it's acting like

2342
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:10,639
a light you know yeah it acts like a

2343
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,840
wave that's what i was kind of

2344
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,679
considering is it's more like a wave

2345
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:15,120
where

2346
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:16,159
um

2347
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,920
yeah it passes through

2348
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:19,280
it's not acting like a particle where

2349
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,960
you can run into it because waves you

2350
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,199
can stack you know i can you can put two

2351
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,199
lights together that's why we use fiber

2352
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,360
optic cables you know it's just so much

2353
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:28,800
more effective

2354
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:30,800
because you can just keep stacking light

2355
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,600
you can just make the light more intense

2356
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:35,280
because light can stack it acts like a

2357
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:36,560
wave

2358
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:38,000
but if you're using particles yeah you

2359
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:40,560
can't do that so it's almost like

2360
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,239
no sound no pushing through the air it

2361
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:46,080
feels like a wave to me or yeah like

2362
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,600
light we think of it like light is how

2363
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,440
you would describe it you know

2364
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:51,120
but then

2365
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:52,480
it seems like it's particle right it's

2366
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,800
bounce bouncing off of it so it's it's

2367
01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:56,400
acting like both you know again we're

2368
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,719
back to uh quantum mechanics it's a wave

2369
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:00,639
it's particle i don't know i can't tell

2370
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:03,440
yeah but i i love the mystery of

2371
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:05,440
of the whole thing actually

2372
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,800
it makes it so so interesting in general

2373
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,960
um here's a question and by the way

2374
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:12,639
we're going to be opening the lines the

2375
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:14,639
phone lines here let me just make sure

2376
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:16,960
yep bill is okay

2377
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,920
so we're going to be opening up the

2378
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:19,520
phone lines here in just a minute a

2379
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:22,400
question here um have you figured out

2380
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,840
that there are several non-human

2381
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,120
intelligence

2382
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:27,040
living in our oceans that's that's

2383
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:28,320
something

2384
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:30,000
let's talk a little bit about i mean not

2385
01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:31,600
in that in particular i mean you're

2386
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,679
welcome to answer that but i mean the

2387
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:35,520
ocean's another part of it and here you

2388
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,040
are a navy guy

2389
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:39,600
um yeah well i was air force but yeah oh

2390
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:42,400
oh i'm sorry i'm sorry sorry

2391
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:45,040
you're totally right i am so embarrassed

2392
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,719
yeah i know that's the worst thing i

2393
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:48,880
could say to an air force guy i'm sorry

2394
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:50,960
um but um

2395
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:53,760
i know this rivalry between yeah yeah

2396
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,010
yeah

2397
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:56,480
[Laughter]

2398
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:58,639
uh yeah i'll be hearing about this for a

2399
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:01,600
while let me do it

2400
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:03,920
but anyway uh

2401
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,639
so what are your thoughts about you know

2402
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,800
the intermedia

2403
01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:10,719
it can go in and i mean it's kind of the

2404
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,199
same thing as this the

2405
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:15,520
the shock wave it's a very similar thing

2406
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:16,880
it can just go

2407
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,440
through the the media without any

2408
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:21,440
slowing down a parent slowing down or

2409
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:23,280
anything or splash

2410
01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,239
just another strange

2411
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:27,920
really strange thing

2412
01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:29,520
yeah i've seen i guess the only two i've

2413
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,719
really investigated was the aguadilla so

2414
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:34,560
the puerto rico yeah yeah that's an

2415
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,719
interesting one probably the best video

2416
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,480
of this you know going in the water and

2417
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:41,120
then it's split splits yeah

2418
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,360
that's a great video i mean that yeah

2419
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:45,280
that's a that's a really good um really

2420
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,440
good one the scu did an amazing report

2421
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:48,960
on that that's kind of the start of the

2422
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:52,400
scu was on that particular was it yes

2423
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:55,360
that was a great yeah that really was a

2424
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,960
yeah i started investigating it and then

2425
01:25:01,669 --> 01:24:59,199
i i was doing this the calculations

2426
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:01,679
between the gps lat long suit this super

2427
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,600
painful calculation i was like oh man

2428
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:05,520
this is going to suck and then i found

2429
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,520
their report i was like thank god they

2430
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,360
had they had done all they did already

2431
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:11,600
difficult stuff yeah i was like oh man

2432
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,040
yeah it's a lot easier to look at it and

2433
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:15,120
be like okay yeah that is correct you

2434
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,920
know

2435
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:18,080
um then it is to just crunch through all

2436
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:19,840
these numbers so i was very happy that

2437
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,120
one and the

2438
01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:23,600
uh the catalina islands one

2439
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:24,840
um in

2440
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,639
2019 yeah with the uh okay omaha it was

2441
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:30,400
the omaha ship

2442
01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:31,920
that's right jeremy corbell released

2443
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:33,520
those three videos yeah that was like

2444
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:35,679
someone's video camera someone's phone

2445
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,280
camera or something

2446
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:39,040
yeah i guess it was the viper team the

2447
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,639
visual reconnaissance teams that they

2448
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,239
send out you know if something weird

2449
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:44,400
happens i guess uh and they video it in

2450
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:47,120
the in the bridge uh and it's that orb

2451
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,719
going you know the black and white video

2452
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:50,800
and the orb goes underwater

2453
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:53,760
uh yes here's to

2454
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:54,960
those are the only two i've really

2455
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:57,199
investigated you know it seems like not

2456
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:59,040
much information has been out but i hear

2457
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:00,719
all these crazy stories i hear all these

2458
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:03,600
crazy rumors you know of things moving

2459
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:06,159
really fast underwater like large things

2460
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:07,920
or coming out of the ocean you know you

2461
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,040
hear about these

2462
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:11,520
uh a giant triangle right that's that's

2463
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:12,560
probably one of the more interesting

2464
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:14,000
ones i would love to see

2465
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,120
um is in 2019

2466
01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,920
in the classified report that went out

2467
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,520
the intelligence classified report that

2468
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:23,679
went out before the

2469
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:25,840
uh 25 june

2470
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,830
it was a year before that there was a

2471
01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:31,440
2019

2472
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:33,679
uh intelligence

2473
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,840
i guess

2474
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:36,880
classified i don't know what they call

2475
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,280
it but it went viral did do you hear

2476
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:41,600
about that i did yeah

2477
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:43,920
yeah in that actual uh

2478
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,760
another debrief article

2479
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,120
mentions that

2480
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,360
but no pictures seen yet

2481
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:51,199
no picture yeah but in the class that

2482
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,040
what they said is the

2483
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,719
several people he talked to several

2484
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,880
witnesses or people that saw the who

2485
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:57,920
read it

2486
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:59,920
said that the the best picture was this

2487
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:01,440
triangle coming out of the ocean you

2488
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,320
know right

2489
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:05,199
i would love to see that so um you know

2490
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,159
it makes you wonder if

2491
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:10,000
that is being viewed by these people

2492
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:13,679
that are involved in this new task force

2493
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,520
um you know if they see a picture like

2494
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:17,520
that isn't that pretty convincing that

2495
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:18,880
would seem like that would be a very

2496
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:24,390
seems like it i mean yeah because what

2497
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:26,719
we've we haven't seen any true form yet

2498
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,280
you know i mean the tic tac

2499
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,880
yeah

2500
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:32,639
how else would you describe a tic tac

2501
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,239
you know it's smooth round you know um

2502
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:38,480
but i guess you could say that it's

2503
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:40,719
oh it's nothing really or it's just

2504
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,600
blurry or it's kind of roundish

2505
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,280
you know but if it's just a triangle you

2506
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:47,199
know if it's a large triangle and it has

2507
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:50,080
clearly fined orbs at each point at each

2508
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,280
apex

2509
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:53,120
you know there's water coming off of it

2510
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:54,400
as it comes out of the ocean i don't

2511
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:56,000
know that would be pretty

2512
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:57,679
pretty convincing to me i don't know how

2513
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:59,679
you else you would explain that yeah

2514
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:01,199
maybe why they haven't shown it you know

2515
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,120
because that hasn't come out i was we've

2516
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,360
seen some other photos but not that one

2517
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,440
yeah i wonder why

2518
01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:09,600
you know

2519
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:11,440
you have to think their motive

2520
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:13,280
is for

2521
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,840
security reasons you know to to keep

2522
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:18,400
anything like that out but i wonder what

2523
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:19,520
would be

2524
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:22,000
the security implication of showing a

2525
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,840
picture of something like that would

2526
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:25,280
that be that we couldn't protect

2527
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,960
ourselves from it i mean what would be

2528
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,960
what some why would that be withheld is

2529
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,280
what i'm getting at

2530
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:35,840
because uh they have no answer for what

2531
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,800
it is

2532
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:39,040
perhaps that's it

2533
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:41,040
i think of it more as just what's their

2534
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:48,870
you know there's there's no benefit to

2535
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,880
the government

2536
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,719
okay that's a good point because they

2537
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:54,719
already have all the info

2538
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:56,000
or they think they have all the info at

2539
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,600
least you know

2540
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:58,560
um

2541
01:29:02,229 --> 01:29:00,320
and so if they want it why why would

2542
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:02,239
they release it so that's why i think it

2543
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,840
really needs to be driven you know

2544
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:06,159
congress is very effective

2545
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:07,760
because they you know they have to be

2546
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:09,520
asked i think

2547
01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:11,199
you know they're not just going to

2548
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:12,719
walk around and be like i think we

2549
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,600
should

2550
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,280
release this information that's

2551
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,360
classified and you know

2552
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:19,280
controversial just out into the public

2553
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,679
space you know i think it's exactly the

2554
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,440
opposite

2555
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:25,520
well we have a caller uh let's take our

2556
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:28,000
caller here um i would like to also know

2557
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:29,199
you know i mean

2558
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:31,520
if if they do have this

2559
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:33,120
very clear picture of this coming out of

2560
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:34,560
the water

2561
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:37,040
wait uh hang on just a minute we got

2562
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:39,360
let me mute this

2563
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:41,440
if we do ha if they do happen to have

2564
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,880
that picture of this thing coming right

2565
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:44,639
out of the water those are they very

2566
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:45,520
clear

2567
01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:46,960
right out of the water i know it's from

2568
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:49,840
an f-18 and reportedly he saw it come

2569
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:52,639
out of the water oh i got it but still

2570
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:54,800
you just it makes you wonder does the

2571
01:30:00,070 --> 01:29:58,000
government know more about this

2572
01:30:01,510 --> 01:30:00,080
of what they are is that's the big

2573
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:01,520
question do they know what they are and

2574
01:30:07,030 --> 01:30:03,760
what they want do they know any more

2575
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,040
about that than we do i'm just i want

2576
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:09,600
your thoughts on that before i take this

2577
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:11,440
caller uh frank thanks for calling and

2578
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:14,159
hang in there we'll get right to you

2579
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,040
i mean to me it sounds like no

2580
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:19,120
um i think they they obviously know more

2581
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,719
than we know i think they have a lot

2582
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,840
more evidence

2583
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:23,120
but i think it's been so

2584
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:25,600
compartmentalized and

2585
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:27,360
broken up into different little parts

2586
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:28,960
and sections that

2587
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:30,639
you know i think there's quite very few

2588
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:32,880
people that even know how much

2589
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:35,360
information the government actually even

2590
01:30:39,189 --> 01:30:36,560
knows

2591
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:39,199
yeah yeah but well i i'm i'm more or

2592
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:41,760
less with you there on all that really

2593
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:43,520
and that's what lou says it's all he

2594
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:45,600
said it's basically understanding that's

2595
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:47,040
what we need now

2596
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:48,880
yeah i think it would be we can get a

2597
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:50,080
lot quicker to understanding if they

2598
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:51,600
would give us the evidence that they

2599
01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:53,920
have right you know or at least some of

2600
01:30:58,709 --> 01:30:56,400
it like yeah release something more it i

2601
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,719
mean it sounds like they will um

2602
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,800
it seems like it's taking a long time

2603
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:02,400
yeah the three qu the three main

2604
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,800
questions what are they why are they

2605
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,400
here what do they want

2606
01:31:09,350 --> 01:31:08,080
you know those are that would be all

2607
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:09,360
nice to

2608
01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:12,719
one of those three

2609
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:14,800
yes or for all three of them all right

2610
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,880
we have uh frank calling from south

2611
01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:18,639
texas frank you are live on the air

2612
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,390
frankie there

2613
01:31:29,830 --> 01:31:25,760
frank

2614
01:31:32,149 --> 01:31:29,840
we can't hear you i got him yeah i guess

2615
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:34,950
all right frank we uh i don't bill can

2616
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,480
you hear me i don't know what's going on

2617
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:38,239
but we're not hearing frank we heard him

2618
01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:40,159
before with a whole bunch of background

2619
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:41,840
now we don't hear anything

2620
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,040
bill i don't know if that's anything

2621
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:45,520
you're doing

2622
01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:47,120
um

2623
01:31:51,830 --> 01:31:49,120
he's trying to get him on but yeah i

2624
01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:51,840
it's it's awful hard to know

2625
01:31:56,229 --> 01:31:54,560
uh frank just jump in if you if you uh

2626
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:56,239
are back on there

2627
01:32:00,669 --> 01:31:58,159
and the line is open anyone else want to

2628
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:00,679
call that number is

2629
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,550
i remember when all the way back in 2011

2630
01:32:11,110 --> 01:32:10,320
when i started this show

2631
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:11,120
i

2632
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:21,679
government probably knows

2633
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:23,840
something more about this

2634
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:26,400
or something along those lines

2635
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:30,229
frank

2636
01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:34,950
he's going to watch this later and just

2637
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,920
okay

2638
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,440
hey frank

2639
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:39,280
i think we hear your voice frank we need

2640
01:32:45,189 --> 01:32:44,070
all right i'm going to have to bump you

2641
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:45,199
out

2642
01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:48,239
sorry frank your last chance

2643
01:32:52,070 --> 01:32:50,159
i'm going to guess

2644
01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:52,080
i still don't hear

2645
01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:54,239
anything oh he's not hearing us bill

2646
01:32:58,070 --> 01:32:55,760
that's what it is he's not hearing us

2647
01:33:03,030 --> 01:33:01,270
so uh bill uh we may have to uh take

2648
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:03,040
care of that in the uh phone line

2649
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:06,800
somehow uh how it goes on kgra but uh so

2650
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:08,480
bill just so you know he's not hearing

2651
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:09,199
us

2652
01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:10,960
uh sorry about that frank

2653
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:12,239
i don't know if we'll get that ironed

2654
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:13,920
out or not uh for now i'm gonna take

2655
01:33:17,270 --> 01:33:15,840
down the phone number probably shouldn't

2656
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:17,280
take any calls until that gets

2657
01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:23,350
but

2658
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:24,719
all right here's here's the other

2659
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:26,719
question for you so we don't know

2660
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:29,120
whether or not anyone knows any more

2661
01:33:33,430 --> 01:33:30,560
than

2662
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:33,440
uh then we know do you think there'll

2663
01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:36,239
ever be a time in our society

2664
01:33:40,550 --> 01:33:38,800
down the road let me before i finish

2665
01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:40,560
this question i'm gonna

2666
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:42,480
backtrack a little bit

2667
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,960
and just say that i watched a video back

2668
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:47,120
in the 1950s

2669
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:49,280
and this guy he looks like he's about 70

2670
01:33:55,189 --> 01:33:51,199
years old then he goes i just want to

2671
01:33:59,750 --> 01:33:57,910
so uh do you think that'll that day will

2672
01:34:01,590 --> 01:33:59,760
ever come do you think we'll ever you

2673
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:01,600
know i don't want to use the disclosure

2674
01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:03,440
word but i want to use the word do you

2675
01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:05,840
think the day will ever come

2676
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:07,600
that we'll know what these things are

2677
01:34:12,149 --> 01:34:08,560
that were

2678
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:14,229
i hope so i think so

2679
01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:16,800
i don't you know i last

2680
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:18,719
before this time this time last year i

2681
01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:21,360
would have said no never

2682
01:34:24,149 --> 01:34:22,159
you know

2683
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:24,159
so i think it's changing so fast i think

2684
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,520
we're moving in

2685
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:28,000
the this is the information age

2686
01:34:32,229 --> 01:34:28,960
you know

2687
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:32,239
yeah if it's true and if it's there

2688
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:33,679
they're not going to be able to

2689
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:35,120
keep it secret

2690
01:34:37,910 --> 01:34:36,239
this is not good we're in the

2691
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:37,920
information age you know

2692
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:40,480
yeah uh you think so you would think so

2693
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:42,239
i'm going to try another another call

2694
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:44,080
and see if bill was able to fix that

2695
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:46,400
this is steve from washington state

2696
01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:48,000
steve you are live on the air welcome to

2697
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:55,830
steve can you hear me

2698
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:57,750
no dice

2699
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:00,719
yeah we got you can you hear us

2700
01:35:06,229 --> 01:35:02,320
all right guys i'm not hearing you at

2701
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,239
all yeah i'm sorry all right well uh

2702
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,000
tell uh bill

2703
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:10,400
bill thanks steve and uh sorry about

2704
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:12,239
that everyone uh

2705
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,280
there's something wrong with the phone

2706
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:15,920
line we tested it earlier uh it seemed

2707
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:17,360
to work fine but that's

2708
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:19,440
that's the way it goes sorry about that

2709
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:21,119
everyone um

2710
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:22,400
and

2711
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:25,440
so you know it would be nice to know but

2712
01:35:30,229 --> 01:35:27,520
i'm not really sure if

2713
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:30,239
if that's necessary and you know maybe

2714
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:32,159
it's a bunch of different things too

2715
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:34,080
maybe we might get an explanation for

2716
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:36,560
one thing but there may be other things

2717
01:35:41,830 --> 01:35:38,880
involved that we may not even be able to

2718
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,840
understand how do you like that

2719
01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:43,920
yeah i hope not uh

2720
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,280
that's

2721
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:47,040
yeah i was talking would rather rather

2722
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:48,880
be squidding uh

2723
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:50,560
last night and he was saying that it may

2724
01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,159
be just unknowable you know that we

2725
01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:54,400
can't know it

2726
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,719
i yeah i tend to think that we're gonna

2727
01:36:00,709 --> 01:35:58,560
when i talked to leslie kane

2728
01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:00,719
she said it's much more complex than

2729
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:01,600
than

2730
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:05,040
know i kept asking her what do you think

2731
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:07,040
she trying to avoid the question

2732
01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:08,880
um but i kind of got yeah she always

2733
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:10,320
does try to voice she doesn't never

2734
01:36:15,109 --> 01:36:11,679
wants to say

2735
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:15,119
she's very careful

2736
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:16,320
yeah

2737
01:36:19,910 --> 01:36:18,080
or i guess she doesn't

2738
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:19,920
i i guess lu said the same thing he's

2739
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:21,520
like it doesn't really matter what i

2740
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,679
think it's what i can show or actually

2741
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:25,360
prove or

2742
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:26,320
um

2743
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,880
yeah convince other people so but yes

2744
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,719
she's definitely not convinced maybe

2745
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,800
maybe herself but her point was it's

2746
01:36:35,669 --> 01:36:34,880
much more complex i think she'll find

2747
01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:35,679
that

2748
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:37,920
it's related to life after death she was

2749
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:40,480
studying life after death and right yeah

2750
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:41,520
yes

2751
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:44,000
she just thinks it's way more complex so

2752
01:36:47,669 --> 01:36:45,920
i think it'll be a

2753
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:47,679
we will learn

2754
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:48,800
you know

2755
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:51,199
facts as we go it'll be a learning

2756
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:53,920
process of expanding that's why i'm also

2757
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:55,360
widening my net you know what i'm

2758
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:57,920
looking at um i'm not just analyzing you

2759
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,239
know the gimbal did it did it uh did it

2760
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:01,840
rotate or not you know because i think

2761
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:04,400
that's it's useful

2762
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:05,760
but i almost think we're kind of past

2763
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:07,840
that at this point where now it's

2764
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:09,520
all right what is this thing what can we

2765
01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:11,360
learn about it

2766
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:12,960
so i i think we i think it'll be a

2767
01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:15,280
gradual learning process just to some

2768
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:16,400
end

2769
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:17,440
um

2770
01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:19,040
yeah we'll see we'll see how it goes but

2771
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:20,239
that's not normally how it works right

2772
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,840
normally disruptive information just

2773
01:37:24,790 --> 01:37:23,920
flips everything on its head

2774
01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:24,800
yeah

2775
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:26,159
like uh people always say about the

2776
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:27,360
white house line i don't think that's

2777
01:37:29,590 --> 01:37:28,560
ever going to happen why would they

2778
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:29,600
choose that

2779
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:31,440
uh that wouldn't be

2780
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:34,639
anyway uh benevolent

2781
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:37,280
malevolent that is the other question is

2782
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:39,600
uh you know you hear occasionally you

2783
01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:42,400
hear things uh about

2784
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:45,360
um you know issues with people's health

2785
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:46,880
people were hurt you know things like

2786
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:49,520
that but for the most part i would think

2787
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:52,000
that if whatever it is is here from

2788
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:53,440
whatever they're

2789
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:54,960
coming from

2790
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:58,639
certainly do a lot more damage than has

2791
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,719
been done i would think

2792
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:02,880
you know if we're the like the ant hill

2793
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:05,119
and their uh higher intelligence like us

2794
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:06,639
walking by

2795
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:08,800
could kick the sand a little bit and

2796
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,159
yeah

2797
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:12,159
you see a lot well you hear terrible

2798
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,280
stories from

2799
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,520
experiencers you know they're kind of

2800
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:17,440
like plagued their whole lives and you

2801
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:20,480
know passes down genetics

2802
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:21,600
um well

2803
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,480
yeah well right right but it doesn't it

2804
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:26,880
doesn't seem necessarily uh

2805
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:28,960
malevolent i guess

2806
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:30,960
it almost just seems like

2807
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:33,760
force of nature you know um

2808
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:36,880
i guess is a tornado malevolent or is it

2809
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:41,990
yeah i mean there's no

2810
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:46,400
uh i guess motive for the tornado

2811
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:47,440
but it

2812
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:48,800
destroys your whole town and kills

2813
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:50,560
everyone you know you know or

2814
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:52,639
just as an example but

2815
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,600
um

2816
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:55,199
it seems like it's more of a force of

2817
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:58,480
nature i guess is my impression but yeah

2818
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:59,679
you know we're going to give frank

2819
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:02,000
another try we'll get one more try bill

2820
01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:04,080
says give him one more try frank you are

2821
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:06,239
on the line from south texas do you hear

2822
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:07,679
me

2823
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:08,880
yes i do

2824
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,679
you can hear us now all right hi frank

2825
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:14,000
welcome to that's right sorry about that

2826
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,199
yeah you got a question for our guest

2827
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:19,040
yeah sometimes

2828
01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:21,440
he works sometimes

2829
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:23,679
but uh chris

2830
01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:32,870
you're welcome man yeah you're welcome

2831
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:33,679
okay

2832
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:37,679
so basically with the different

2833
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:45,910
i

2834
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:49,440
uh

2835
01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:51,440
bob lazar talked about when he was

2836
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:53,360
working on the crest that he was working

2837
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:56,239
on that there's a way to

2838
01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:57,679
the way he's describing it almost sounds

2839
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:01,040
like he's aiming at gravity well and the

2840
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:04,239
crap that you're in falls into that well

2841
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:06,639
so it doesn't matter what

2842
01:40:11,109 --> 01:40:09,920
what media you're in whether it's air

2843
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,119
space

2844
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:12,320
water

2845
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,000
it just takes it takes you from one

2846
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:16,719
point to the other so you're basically

2847
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:19,679
existing out of space time and therefore

2848
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,560
you're not subject to sonic booms

2849
01:40:26,709 --> 01:40:24,320
i mean have you thought have you all

2850
01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:26,719
thought about that

2851
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,280
yeah i do i mean um

2852
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:31,920
i've i know lazar is controversial you

2853
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:33,760
know he's a controversial guy i don't

2854
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:36,480
believe in him yeah so i know martin

2855
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:37,600
doesn't

2856
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:39,840
and i

2857
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:41,600
you know i trust martin i don't know but

2858
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:42,560
uh

2859
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:45,600
very interesting how he talks about that

2860
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:46,880
yeah i mean

2861
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:48,960
the concept uh

2862
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:52,560
it doesn't it seems to make sense i mean

2863
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,080
when you're able to

2864
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:55,760
i mean i've actually

2865
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:58,159
years back i actually got to see a what

2866
01:41:02,550 --> 01:40:59,520
i thought it was a shooting star making

2867
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:02,560
a 90 degree turn at a 45 degree turn

2868
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:05,920
and realized it was a big star

2869
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,360
cool and

2870
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:09,360
the the way you're able to defeat

2871
01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:12,719
inertia is to be outside of space time

2872
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:13,840
and so

2873
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:15,360
that's how i figure

2874
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:16,639
that these

2875
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:18,480
this phenomena is

2876
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:20,960
being being able to do what it does

2877
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,400
is that

2878
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:24,719
it it's

2879
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,719
the way i'm thinking about is shooting a

2880
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:29,040
gravity well in whatever direction and

2881
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:30,000
you're

2882
01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:36,239
physics as we know them

2883
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:38,639
yeah exactly he says um

2884
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:41,440
salvatore pais i was also looking at his

2885
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:42,480
patents

2886
01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:44,800
which are which are very interesting and

2887
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,159
they were kind of similar so i don't

2888
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,480
know where actually where he got the the

2889
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:50,719
ideas for it uh but

2890
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:51,760
you know my

2891
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,760
rudimentary understanding

2892
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,840
of it is that uh at least lazar said

2893
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,040
that you can

2894
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:58,639
use a wave guide

2895
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:01,520
to aim the gravity waves just like

2896
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,199
microwaves

2897
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:05,679
uh right yeah back in that time when you

2898
01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:08,159
know 89 i guess when he said that i

2899
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:10,960
believe is 89 um they hadn't invented or

2900
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,639
they hadn't found gravity waves yet

2901
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:15,040
right we hadn't actually observed them

2902
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:16,719
with our scientific instruments but

2903
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:19,040
they'd been postulated for many years

2904
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:20,719
you know i think i think einstein talked

2905
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:21,440
about

2906
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:24,480
uh gravity waves being possible um

2907
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,800
at least i know they were they were

2908
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,800
postulated for many decades previously

2909
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,239
so

2910
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:32,159
he could have come up with that you know

2911
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:34,960
from some sort of science fiction

2912
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,600
book i guess well

2913
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:40,080
as it turns out science seems to follow

2914
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:47,750
yeah i mean that would be it right and

2915
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:50,800
so what they found in 2015 at the ligo

2916
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,400
is that uh wherever it is montana

2917
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:56,960
anyway that what they found is that

2918
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,800
there are gravity waves they detected

2919
01:43:02,149 --> 01:43:00,400
them i mentioned with the laser martin

2920
01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:02,159
you know it's talking about the it's an

2921
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,600
interferometer

2922
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:05,600
basically just shoot a laser down a long

2923
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:07,440
hallway four kilometers

2924
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,520
and then you time it when it comes back

2925
01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:11,360
and so they have two long hallways 90

2926
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:12,960
degrees apart

2927
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:14,480
and the laser should come back at the

2928
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:16,480
exact same time right

2929
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:18,239
but if they don't now you can say

2930
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:20,800
there's gravity waves um

2931
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:22,159
and so they prove that that's what i was

2932
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:23,600
talking about in space right because in

2933
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:26,080
space the reason they put it it is four

2934
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,760
kilometers is they have to suck out the

2935
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:29,600
air to make it a vacuum but in space now

2936
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:31,920
we can do it like a thousand kilometers

2937
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:34,480
um maybe make it even uh

2938
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:35,840
you know try and listen you know

2939
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:37,520
actually listen to see if if we're

2940
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:39,600
receiving any any uh

2941
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:41,119
transmissions you know that at that

2942
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:42,400
wavelength

2943
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:43,440
but yeah no i think it's very

2944
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,400
interesting and salvatore pais his his

2945
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:48,960
uh high

2946
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:51,360
high frequency gravity wave generator

2947
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:53,280
that's what it is that's what he does to

2948
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:55,520
actually excite the outside of the craft

2949
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:56,719
um

2950
01:44:01,430 --> 01:44:00,719
exactly and also why i was interested in

2951
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:01,440
that

2952
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:05,280
some other way to transmit

2953
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:06,880
information at least

2954
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:09,280
than what we can see what we know

2955
01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:15,430
i guess being able to have a

2956
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,600
your your

2957
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:19,280
significant other

2958
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:21,840
cells on the other end of the universe

2959
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:25,360
correct is that what you're referring to

2960
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:26,560
um

2961
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:29,199
i don't know i guess be harder to get

2962
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,960
i don't know

2963
01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:32,639
be able to

2964
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:39,350
exactly yep so that would that would

2965
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:40,719
show

2966
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:41,920
uh and

2967
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:44,880
we're considering um actual

2968
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,880
scientific experiments to prove that

2969
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,480
right to find that that would be part of

2970
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,480
this we're looking for evidence of uaps

2971
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,960
as well but i think you can do many

2972
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:55,280
cheaper experiments to actually go

2973
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:56,800
you know for this

2974
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:58,719
psychic connection because it we all

2975
01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,239
have a brain

2976
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:02,400
you know so we can all do so we can all

2977
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,080
participate maybe in some of these in

2978
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,920
these experiments if we do like a mass

2979
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:07,600
experiment to prove the psychic

2980
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,639
connection

2981
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:09,920
yeah you can

2982
01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:11,280
just shows there's more than we know

2983
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:12,880
which obviously there's more than we

2984
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,840
know

2985
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,360
yeah

2986
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:17,760
well

2987
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:20,960
put in my uh my question or two uh

2988
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:23,280
i'm really thankful for the conversation

2989
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:24,159
thank you

2990
01:45:28,550 --> 01:45:26,400
thanks a lot thanks frank and that's all

2991
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:28,560
the time we have for uh calls this

2992
01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:30,880
evening yeah i think it's it's really

2993
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:33,199
interesting and i think you know i think

2994
01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:35,199
we know very very

2995
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:37,360
i say this probably too much

2996
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:39,760
very little about what's really going on

2997
01:45:43,030 --> 01:45:41,760
around us we know just a little tiny

2998
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,040
fragment

2999
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:45,440
of what there is to know that's uh

3000
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,040
probably right in front of us and we

3001
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:49,040
just can't

3002
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:51,840
figure out what it is and that includes

3003
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:54,159
uaps as well

3004
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:54,960
so

3005
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:58,719
know wrapping up the show we've got

3006
01:46:02,390 --> 01:46:00,320
about you know three and a half minutes

3007
01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:02,400
or something like that so if you would

3008
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:03,360
um

3009
01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:05,760
talk about how people can find your

3010
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:08,000
youtube channel it's down in the notes

3011
01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:10,239
of the show notes as well as down

3012
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:13,199
on the uh youtube and facebook uh down

3013
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:15,119
in there on the text of the program all

3014
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:16,880
you have to do is click on that link but

3015
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:18,960
uh go over some of the shows some of the

3016
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:20,639
if you can i don't know if you can pull

3017
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:23,280
up your site right there yeah talk about

3018
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:25,440
some of the titles and some of the shows

3019
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:26,960
you have in the last few minutes we have

3020
01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:29,679
here and don't forget everyone next week

3021
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:31,760
i'm going to be over at james fox

3022
01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:34,000
compound over in vermont and we're going

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01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:36,480
to be filming live doing the show live

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right there

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01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:39,440
and uh should be

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01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:41,920
should be a lot of fun uh that's a high

3027
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:43,280
energy guy right there i'll tell you

3028
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:45,040
james fox

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01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:46,639
so

3030
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:53,040
hey actually all i have is uh this

3031
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,560
it's kind of tricky sometimes to find

3032
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,159
your channels but you have you did a

3033
01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:58,320
show on dark matter which i really oh

3034
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,840
here we go i liked a lot uh you know i

3035
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:03,920
think it's really funny that uh a lot of

3036
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:07,040
people that are skeptical or have been

3037
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:09,520
for instance i've had uh seth shawsak on

3038
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:11,600
i think three times on this show and

3039
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:15,040
he's very skeptical about any part of

3040
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,400
the uh

3041
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:18,400
you know uaps ufos whatever you want to

3042
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:19,440
call them

3043
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,960
but yet you know he thinks there's

3044
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:23,040
really something to dark matter

3045
01:47:26,790 --> 01:47:24,320
and yeah

3046
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,800
and it's a thing that we can't

3047
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:28,960
physically see touch there's the only

3048
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:31,119
evidence we have is the reactionary

3049
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:32,400
things that are happening out in the

3050
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:33,440
universe

3051
01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:36,880
that's really it so this is uh this is

3052
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:38,239
and 95

3053
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:40,080
it's not even that there's a little bit

3054
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:41,600
of dark matter

3055
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:44,000
you know yeah it's like uh

3056
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:46,000
no there's eighty percent of what we see

3057
01:47:52,149 --> 01:47:49,440
is dark matter or seven i think it's 73

3058
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:52,159
or if i have that of all right is that

3059
01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:53,600
what it is

3060
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:55,280
yeah and then the other 20 something

3061
01:48:01,750 --> 01:47:58,560
percent is dark energy

3062
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:01,760
so it's really just 90 it's 95

3063
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:03,679
of the stuff we we don't know what it is

3064
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:06,000
isn't that crazy yeah yeah and they

3065
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:07,679
don't they don't

3066
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:09,520
they don't think their models are wrong

3067
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:11,840
you know right it's like yeah if you if

3068
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,600
you try to do google maps on a flat

3069
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:15,520
earth you know basically i bet you're

3070
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:17,440
going to be 95 off you probably won't

3071
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:25,189
but yeah these yeah so i make uh i've

3072
01:48:28,870 --> 01:48:27,280
been making these fighter pilot videos

3073
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:28,880
essentially um

3074
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:31,600
what i use digital combat simulator is a

3075
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,760
free to use yeah i love that yeah that's

3076
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:35,280
super cool it feels like you're really

3077
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:37,040
flying in that thing

3078
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,239
it feels like you're really flying in

3079
01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:39,920
that thing man when you're flying it i

3080
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:42,239
do enjoy it you know i'd miss flying

3081
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:44,159
uh i bet you do i retired a couple years

3082
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:45,760
ago and so it's cool to get back in the

3083
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:46,880
jet and

3084
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:49,440
yeah yeah it's fun um

3085
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:52,159
yeah and talk to elizondo

3086
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:53,920
uh leslie keane so i have a few

3087
01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:56,320
interviews over there um she's amazing

3088
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:58,320
lizzie kane

3089
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:00,880
there's yours right oh yeah

3090
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:03,760
yeah yeah um you know getting back to

3091
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:05,119
yeah we have just a minute here but

3092
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:06,480
getting back to

3093
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:07,920
to flying

3094
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:10,000
i can't imagine how exciting that must

3095
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:13,199
be so exciting to have the acceleration

3096
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,880
and to be able to have that at your

3097
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,960
command oh my god that that would be

3098
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:18,560
such a dream to be able to do something

3099
01:49:20,470 --> 01:49:19,599
like that

3100
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,480
yeah

3101
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:22,639
it i mean the the simulators these days

3102
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,560
are amazing really amazing yeah i mean

3103
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:26,800
it's exactly it it looks exactly you

3104
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,400
know you can't simulate the feel and the

3105
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:30,800
g's and all that and the sweating and

3106
01:49:35,350 --> 01:49:33,920
the anxiety you know but uh

3107
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:35,360
but you can simulate everything else

3108
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,760
looks the same the the switch is almost

3109
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,920
exactly the same it's it's cool yeah how

3110
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,280
would you check it out

3111
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:43,119
we have to wrap so thanks so much and

3112
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,119
remember next week james fox tomorrow

3113
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:46,880
night skin walker ranch same time right

3114
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,440
here on youtube thank you very much it's

3115
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:51,599
always a pleasure talking to you

3116
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:52,960
and thank you martin thanks everybody

3117
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:54,480
who's here thanks for being here you bet

3118
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:55,840
and you're always welcome on the show

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01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:56,800
take care

3120
01:50:01,930 --> 01:49:58,320
all right everyone so keep your eyes to

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01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:01,940
the sky and we'll see you next week